combatartist
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Dumb question: is 1/32 the same as 54 mm?
1/35 = 54 mm?
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Steve
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No, Tony. 1/35 is a scale And it is not a dumb question.
captnenglish
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To build on what Steve posted, 1/32nd and 54mm are used synonmously(SP?), but Steve is correct 1/32nd is a scale whereas 54mm is a size which makes using the two terms that way incorrect. HTH.
Gary D
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Gray over at Colorado Miniatures put together an excellent explanation.
http://www.coloradominiatures.com/infoscalesandsizes.aspx
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http://www.coloradominiatures.com/infoscalesandsizes.aspx
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Steve
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Ahhh...guess I should wear the new glasses...crawl into hole HERE
For modeling purposes, 54mm figures will appear closer to 1/32 scale. As an example, some of the older Monogram armor kits were 1/32 scale. 1/35 scale figures will look too small along side the vehicles; 54mm figures will appear more correct.
Einion
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Basically, yes.combatartist said:
For any scale or ratio (1/32, 1:6 etc.) you have to know the dimensions of the original thing to know what size it will be at the reduced scale. At 1/32 scale, for a chosen nominal height you do end up with a figure height of 54mm, measured to crown of head, but for a taller or shorter man they'd be 57, 55, 52mm and so forth.
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chippy
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The thread starts 35th=54mm , but then starts 32nd the same as 54mm ,
so which is it? In many cases 32nd and 54mm can be very close but like many things it also depends on the manufacturer if you are trying to combine them in a diorama .
35th is much smaller than 54mm and do not mix , putting the two together is sort of like father and son scale .
chippy
so which is it? In many cases 32nd and 54mm can be very close but like many things it also depends on the manufacturer if you are trying to combine them in a diorama .
35th is much smaller than 54mm and do not mix , putting the two together is sort of like father and son scale .
chippy
Anders Heintz
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5'8" (~172cm) dude in 1/32nd scale is approx 54mm tall
5'8" (~172cm) dude in 1/35th scale is approx 49mm tall
So yes, you can say that 54mm is about the same as 1/32nd scale as a general rule. Though some people like to fight that 54mm and 32nd scale is the same, naming scale vrs size, which is true, but the common perception is that if you are talking about a 32nd scale figure you are talking about a 54mm figure, and vice versa.
5'8" (~172cm) dude in 1/35th scale is approx 49mm tall
So yes, you can say that 54mm is about the same as 1/32nd scale as a general rule. Though some people like to fight that 54mm and 32nd scale is the same, naming scale vrs size, which is true, but the common perception is that if you are talking about a 32nd scale figure you are talking about a 54mm figure, and vice versa.
Jeff
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What he said.
Kings Road Figures are sculpted to the scale of 1/32 scale and the people are as close as we can get them to their correct height in real life that is why Jimmy Doolittle is much shorter then Charles Lindbergh. Doolittle was no taller then 5' 4" and Lindbergh was 6' 3". I have always equated 54 mm with 1/32 scale. Though some manufactures call figures that are clearly 1/35 scale 54 mm. Pegaso has called some figures that scale out to 65 to 70 mm as 54 mm so it can get confusing.
Harry
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Yep, everything with figure size/scale needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt. In general terms 1/32=54mm, 1/16=120mm (not true I know, but its used that way) 1/9=200mm, 1/12=150mm, etc. However, take Verlinden for example. I generally avoid their figures, due to bad poses, poor sculpting and a Frankenstein like, mix and match way of using old parts from previous figures. However, I just got their US Marine Pacific figure. Generally a good figure overall and much better than some of their latest efforts. However, it's labeled 120mm. But..compared to even my S&T and Warriors 1/16th scale figs (which in reality would be 110mm and look that way), he's on the smaller side with an even smaller head (now replaced). This is odd for Verlinden, whose figures generally run on the larger scale, actually being 120mm. If I were to compare him to some of the figures from companies like Fort Royal or Imperial Gallery, he would look ridiculous, as their figures are "big" 120mm. Yes there are size differences in real humans, but in this scale the equipment, weapons and general appearance should be close, not Andre the Giant next to a normal human looking. Yes that kind of size difference can happen in real life, but its not the norm.
theBaron
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You make an excellent point, about figures of people who were of different height being sculpted to the same size. It's an issue that is annoying sometimes with old Stadden figures. In the old custom figure line, the Prussian hussars are just as tall and just as stocky as the cuirassiers, when in real life, on average, the hussars would have been smaller men, since 5' 6" was the maximum height for recruits, while the cuirassiers recruited men 5' 6" and taller. On the other side of that issue, though, is the fact that people are all of different sizes, so it is possible to make a natural-looking group with figures from different makers, representing different interpretations of 54mm, as long as the proportions don't vary too much.
Of course, it drove me nuts as a kid, that Monogram's armor was 1/32 (except for the M60 Patton), Tamiya's was 1/35, and Airfix made their large-scale sets in 1/32. It wasn't possible to mix across all three.
Prost!
Brad
theBaron
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Oh, and the fact that Doolittle was only 5' 4", and bald, is one more reason why "Pearl Harbor" is a terrible, terrible movie. I mean, c'mon! Alec Baldwin as Doolittle? One more bad thing about a bad, bad movie.
Jeff
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Don't get me started on Pearl Harbor.
I try and get the actual heights of the real people and send that to our sculptors before they start our figures. I usually run that through a scale calculator so that we have a very good idea of what that number is for actual figure height. I have a photo of Jimmy with Lindbergh and you can see just how short he is compared to him.
I try and get the actual heights of the real people and send that to our sculptors before they start our figures. I usually run that through a scale calculator so that we have a very good idea of what that number is for actual figure height. I have a photo of Jimmy with Lindbergh and you can see just how short he is compared to him.
combatartist
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Thanks gents- I noticed a few proportional differences between companies and mixing them. I did buy some plastic scales to aid me in this, hopefully will eliminate the one figure I was working on looked like his knuckles would be dragging in real life. Though did have this Drill Sgt. once...
