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Edson

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Hey fellas, I was wondering if the draws of Mr. McBride have a good referece behind, I mean if his draws are historicly correct or just are personal interpretations about the real things, or which one is his resource (book, texts, sculptures,etc)????

thanks in advance
Regards
Ed :)
 
There was an article in Military Illustrated (Sorry I don't remenber the number of MI issue ! ). They showed that when working for ospey books, the author gives Angus a sketch from wich he bases his drawings. Most of his drawings are based on archeological discoveries but sometimes he mixes together on the same person objects that are not supposed to be exactly from the same period. Nevertheless as far as you go back in history all the drawings are more guesswork than anything else.
I saw on an historical forum that the drawings in the osprey about Germanic Warriors were Historicaly seen like a cartoon !
I think that you will always find people to find something wrong in our figures and if you use the plates as a base for an antique figure, 99,9% of the people won't have nothing to say about it.
I myself am found of his plates because they bring an era to life and always inspires me very much...
Bye ;)
jean-Philippe
 
I have to agree with Jean-Philippe, I have always sought out and bought Angus McBride's books even tho there has been questions about accuracy. I can question accuracy with most anyone's art-work, but believe these to be fairly accurate and a colorful refference source. I have about 25 of his illustrated books on hand .
 
Well, I guess I'll be the voice of dissent on this subject. McBride has his good books and his not so good books. Perhaps, as has been suggested, his authenticity depends on the direction he's been given by the author. Two examples of just how erratic his work can be are his treatments of the ancients Celts, one for Osprey, and the other for Concord. The Osprey title is one of Angus' best, the illustrations are accurate and his technique realistic. The Concord book on the other hand, is terribly inaccurate and based on 19th century illustrations. Both McBride and the author should have known better. Unfortunately this book has been the primary resource for a whole lot of recent sculpts. So take McBride stuff with a fair amount of skepticism, don't assume it's accurate. FWIW, his work on the Concord book about the Roman Army is excellent and has some very evocative depictions. Personally, I prefer his earlier technique to the newer more stylized stuff. Hope this helps.


Shane
 
I just picked up the Concord "Imperial Rome at War" book. The descriptions are great, and the artwork interesting. Aside from the occasional anatomical anomalies (the guy with the pick in the Tuetoburg forest pick) the book appears a good references supplemented with nice art. His Napoleonic illustrations for Osprey are among their best.

Too bad about the Celts. I purchased one of the other Concord books with the Roman book, and I hope it's not the one on Celts!! :p

Cheers
Andy
 
I have to agree with Shane, you have to be very careful of Angus McBride's work if you're concerned with accuracy. He's perhaps best known for his collaborative titles with David Nicole and in these cases Dr. Nicole should be the one determining the accuracy of the finished illustrations and sometimes that's the first problem. Like any academic he lists the primary sources from which the various elements are taken, but sometimes they are so extremely disparate that putting them together on a single figure can give results that are frankly little better than guesswork an educated enthusiast would make.

Additionally, McBride adds his own touch to many pictures to make them better paintings - to make them look good - possibly with an eye to having the original sell, but regardless of the motivation from our point of view this is very dangerous. Sometimes this is something as subtle as his choice of colour but not infrequently it's much more serious. There are numerous examples but I'll stick to a favourite: round shields. If you look at his representations of them in use by various European cultures they are rarely depicted as completely flat - I personally suspect purely because this makes them more aesthetically pleasing when seen in 3/4 profile - when, if you do your own research, the evidence suggests they were mostly just that (until eastern influence began to be a factor most likely). Three titles to compare would be The Vikings, The Age Of Charlemagne, and Arthur And The Anglo-Saxon Wars. The first of these is the best in this regard, possibly because the author, Ian Heath, made a point of having the shields be flat; but take a look at the edge of the shield in the foreground figure on plate F, in addition to being slightly domed the edge looks like it's around 2cm thick!

And to top it all off you have to consider McBride's age, he's 73 now, and his later work is often a mere shadow of how good it was when he was at his peak (Napoleon's Hussars for example).

Einion
 
Very interesting Einion thanks a lot for posting, these give me a more clear vision, about the accuracy on the Angus´s draws, I´ll take on mind all your comments guys, thanks a lot.

Best Regards
Ed :)
 
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