Bust scales

[itifonhom]

Hi everybody,
I´m a little confused about bust scales. I´ve seen the "normal" 1/9 and 1/10 and also the big 1/4 but I´ve also seen some 200mm or 180mm. Well, it seems I can´t figure out which scale a 200mm bust is, I mean what actually is 200mm, the whole bust top to bottom, base or hats included, or the "body" of the bust (chest and head only). Anyone knows?

Thanks in advance,

Anastasios.

 

[Sambaman]

Anastasios,
generally speaking 200mm translates into 1/9 scale - 180mm to 1/10 - etc. Gary D. or the other sculptors may be able to translate scale measurements much better than I can, but generally when measuring a figure the size correlates to a measure of the full figure. So when it comes to a bust it is ususally an approximation. For instance, some of the Verlinden busts that are labeled 200mm are sandbaged a bit, as they generaly tend to be somewhat, if not much larger than 1/9 scale. I think there is more room for varience in the scale of busts since there is not a whole figure to specify actual heighth of the piece. One of the things I like most about busts actually, is the fact that you can get a bit of a suprise when opening the kit. Sometimes it's bigger than you anticipated, sometimes smaller. I don't personally feel that actual scale is quite as important with busts as with full figures. HTH,

Jay H.
OKC

 

[garyjd]

Jay, You hit the nail on the head. The way I explain it is that SCALE size is just that. When you talk about 54mm or 120mm etc that's the overall size of the figure. Items like weapons are then probably built to fit the figure rather than the other way around.~Gary

 

[marcellin de marbot]

Hello men,
I think that you have both reason. The classic 54mm has to be measured at the front, cap excluded, but almost all sculptors have forgotten it, because the actual figures are always 58 or 60mm, or more. But the classical 54mm correlates to 1/32, related to the medium height of man, about 173cm. (when the tin soldier born, in the 40s, nowadays the medium height is increased). So, the 75mm is 1/24, the 90mm is 1/20 etc.etc. The same concept is right also for the busts, as said by Sambaman. The producers of busts often name their "creatures" using both definitions 200mm or 1/9 and 180mm or 1/10.
Regards
MdM

 

[Einion]

This may help:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/messag...nfig&msg=1848.1

Einion

 

[itifonhom]

Thanks everybody for the replies.
The reason I asked is because I want to buy a 200mm bust and use it as a start for a conversion, almost scratchbuilding. I will have to add some modern weaponry to the bust so scale is important in this case. The only method of actually find out the scale of the bust is measure the head only and compare it with heads of some of my friends! This will put out some scales! Although it won´t be really accurate, I can live with it. Any more ideas on this are welcomed!!

Thanks again, Anastasios.

 

[Calvin]

Anastasios, as you can see scale and size are two different things which basically means the same. Choosing one or another for labeling only depends from the manufacturer's taste.
Real scale of most of figures (above all busts) does not correspond to the declaread (scale or size) one. Most obvious examples are 54mm figures (supposed to be in 1/32, but going from 1/35 up to 1/30) and 1/10 busts (going from 1/12 up to 1/8 scale, but just labeled as 1/10).

As you already noticed, measuring the head, which is supposed to be proportionate to the rest of the body, you can get an approximated idea of the real scale of the figure.

The following chart is what I use to label my own pieces, it has been calculated considering an height of 1,75 m for the human body. You will be surprised about how much the real size/scale of most of figures on the market figure will differ from the one declared on the box.

 

[itifonhom]

Hi Calvin,
this table is more than helpful, actually is perfect!! I´m gonna use it as a reference to measure the bust and find the actual scale. In my taste, scale is more important than size when extra work has to be done since everything has to be measured down to scale. Now I got the perfect tool to start with! Again thanks!

Anastasios.

 

[Wlas]

All good info, but what about when someone says that a particular bust is 42 but when you get it home it's a 30?

 

[Einion]

Originally posted by Majnun@Oct 7 2006, 05:40 PM
All good info, but what about when someone says that a particular bust is 42 but when you get it home it's a 30?

42?

The stated scale not being true to what's in the box is a common problem unfortunately. Most '54mm' figures from Europe today are in excess of 60mm in height; the very worst I've seen myself being from Masterclass, where they're actually 70 mils!

120s are no better; it's very common to have 1/15 and 1/16 scale both sold as the same thing when in fact neither scale should generally have figures that are even close to 120 mm in height.

Einion

 

[quang]

Originally posted by Majnun@Oct 7 2006, 11:40 AM
All good info, but what about when someone says that a particular bust is 42 but when you get it home it's a 30?

Stranger things happen at sea.

 

[Wlas]

Sadly I didn't provide enough detail, Einion. What if someone said a particular bust was 44DD but when you got it home you find it's only a 30c with lifters.......

 

[quang]

The world is full of wonder...bras. :lol:

 

[Wlas]

 

[BHowe]

"What if someone said a particular bust was 44DD but when you got it home you find it's only a 30c with lifters......."

Then she can't complain when she sees that the lump in my trousers is really a cucumber! :lol: