Colors for inside of the mouth

[Mongo Mel]

Hi,
I'm in need of some help again. I'm starting the huge El Cid bust from Ft. Duquesne Miniatures. If you're not familiar with it, the mouth is wide open as though he is yelling.
What I need is some suggestions for colors to use to paint the tongue, inner cheeks and the roof of his mouth (I work in oils only). My thoughts are that Aliziran Crimson may be useful here but beyond that I'm clueless.
Thanks in advance for your help
Craig

 

[Blind Pew]

I agree, either that or something similar to permanant magenta. I think the scale of that piece is fairly big, so experiment with different colours untill you're happy.

 

[Anders Heintz]

Id paint the inside a very dark red, just enough to see it has redin it but mostly black. The tounge should be a light pinkish rediish kind of color, look in the mirror for reference!

 

[PJ Deluhery]

Hi Craig,

I would start with the lip color - which for me is flesh + Cad. red and a tint of magenta. For shadows I'd add more Cad red and magenta. For highlights, more flesh - maybe just a touch of white for very high highs. Go easy on the magenta as it can turn purple very quickly. Aliz crimson might work in place of the cad red, but I have not done that, so perhaps you will need to experiment.

Since much of the upper mouth is in shadow, as Anders said, I'd make a darker shadow color by adding more Cad red and magenta and use this for the deep shadow areas. For midtone areas, I'd start with a slightly redder version of lip color and add more flesh for the highlights. The tongue is probably in direct light towards the front, requiring highlights, with a blend back towards the midtone as you move into the mouth and aroung to the underside of the tongue.

Good luck!

 

[Mongo Mel]

Hi guys,
Thanks for the feedback.
Anders, this bust is huge and I think that color combination would be too dark for the scale. The open mouth is big enough to maybe fit a pencil eraser into it.
Pat, that's just the kind of info I was looking for. Many thanks .
How goes the dragon? Have you started it yet?
Craig

 

[Anders Heintz]

Ohhh!

Make sure you show us some inprogs to see how it worked!

 

[Mongo Mel]

Hi Anders,
I'll be sure to post pictures as it goes along. I just can't seem to make any progress since I got back from MFCA over 2 weeks ago. Don't understand it .
I've got this one in primer plus a coat of mars black on the chain mail. I painted the helmet with silver printes inks mixed into mars black to a metallic grey shade.
It has a scarf wrapped around the helmet and head that I want to make look like silk. What I'm trying there is to undercoat the scarf with the silver printers ink mix. I'm hoping that painting over it with red will give it a bit of a shimmer like silk.
If it doesn't look right I'll probably strip it (again) and ask for more help :lol: .
thanks,
Craig

 

[PJ Deluhery]

Gald to help Craig!

My dragon is sidelined termporarily due to a very hectic schedule. Hope to start him soon. Will let you know how he turns out.