Fine detailing and 'Blocking'

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tjfromdevon

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Having finally progressed some other modelling projects I was working on, I'm about to start work on my next figure - a Roman Decurion. This will be my second figure, thanks once again for all the positive feedback about my first one. I do have a question though, this figure has chain mail and a leather kilt. However a lot of the small details like leather straps and buckles lie on top of all this, when painting is it normal to block all the large areas first and then paint detail on top or do you paint the detail first and then block in around it. Suggestions/advice please? Thanks in advance
 
Hi there ,

I only paint busts but I prime in black then put a colour close to the finished one as a base on all parts , personally I like to basecoat really cleanly and sharply , once this is done then the flesh work is done then the clothing is painted from the inside ie the clothing under the mail then mail , then belts, etc etc

Hope this helps

Nap
 
Hi there ,

I only paint busts but I prime in black then put a colour close to the finished one as a base on all parts , personally I like to basecoat really cleanly and sharply , once this is done then the flesh work is done then the clothing is painted from the inside ie the clothing under the mail then mail , then belts, etc etc

Hope this helps

Nap


Hi
I dont suppose this will help, I have asked this question often. The replies I have got back are ' what ever is best for you.'. My only thoughts on what Nap has said is eg having done the tunic, you go on to do a shoulder belt. When it comes to doing the sides of the belt you can get belt paint on the tunic, then have to touch up the tunic.

That said if you look at Naps work along side mine, follow Naps advice.

Mick
 
Let's say you have a brown leather strap lying across a scarlet tunic.
Carefully undercoat both in chosen red and brown. When dry, paint the undercuts / side of the strap in a very dark brown like Van Dyck Brown.
Let it go completely dry and then work your base coats for tunic and strap up to this. You can then work from this 'line' to add distress to the strap and shadow to the tunic.
Hope this is of some help.
Cheers
Derek
 
Thanks everyone for your advice and comments - I will attempt to apply something from everyone. It;s really nice o be on a forum where you ask a question and actually get help and support in what your trying ti achieve. Thanks once again.
TJ

Right guys that's him hooked......now to strip him of all dignity and self esteem ;):D
 
Hi TJ
To paint is not an exact science, you can do the things as you want with good result at the end.
I always paint flesh first, big extensions of metals after, and the rest. The orden is altered when i've got something with metal with the flesh, because i paint with acrilycs, so, the metallic pigment is very hard to erase, and i prefer retouch the metals stained with flesh than the flesh stained with metal.
In your example, i paint the chainmail first, and the leather after.
 
If it's any consolation TJ, I've never painted a figure or bust the same way twice. I tend to block out areas with a base coat colour and then work on building up contrast through highlights and shadows, but sometimes I'll do things in reverse just because I can. Sometimes I paint the flesh first, sometimes I paint it last. I tend to paint and then do touch ups, and then paint and do more touch ups. It's a rather random process for me, and I like it that way. Other painters would find my process hard to understand.

No painter wants to tell another painter exactly how to paint his figures, because we have all developed (or more accurately, are in the process of developing) our own painting styles. Some people are very disciplined and paint every figure by an exact process that produces a very predictable and consistent result, but I'm more of a chaos painter. I like to experiment and try new things in the hope that I might find a new or better result by approaching the task of painting differently. Sometimes it works and sometimes its a complete failure, but I'm never doing something the same way twice. It helps to keep my hobby fresh and exciting for me. After 45 years of modelling, I'm also old enough to know that the more I learn, the less I know.

The point of all this is, is to say "do what you feel is right and what works for you". Practice techniques that you borrow from other painters, try new things and don't be afraid to throw away all the "How to.." books, DVD tutorials, You Tube videos and advice from others, and just do what looks and feels good to you.

If a particular modeller does a technique that you really like or achieved an effect on his figures that you'd like to try to replicate on your own figures, the best advice I can give is to contact the modeller directly and simply ask "How'd you do that?"

Most of the modellers on Planet Figure are happy to provide advice to other modellers when asked and to share their tips and techniques.
 
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