I just joined yesterday and already have received many good advice from your members to include Wendy, Anders Einion GaryJD and Darkeye. I have a few pics of the bust of Custer that is on the bench so to speak as a newbie sculptor I ask for any and all critique. I figured that a bust is the way to start before trying a full figure. Hope I can get some of the pictures up!
George A. Custer
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dinovision79
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Hi Pat,
wellcome to pF! I like the bust very much, the face has nice character!
My only advice would be to add more volume to the body, specially the back (don't know if it's ready at all?). What's the scale? Are you going to paint it?
Look forward to see more of your work!
Denes
wellcome to pF! I like the bust very much, the face has nice character!
My only advice would be to add more volume to the body, specially the back (don't know if it's ready at all?). What's the scale? Are you going to paint it?
Look forward to see more of your work!
Denes
tonydawe
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Hi Pat,
You've made a very good start mate. As Denes suggested, I think you could add more volume to the chest and back.
My suggestion would be to look at the width of the shoulders. In theory the width of the shoulders should be approximately 3 times the width of the head.
What sculpting medium do you use??
You've made a very good start mate. As Denes suggested, I think you could add more volume to the chest and back.
My suggestion would be to look at the width of the shoulders. In theory the width of the shoulders should be approximately 3 times the width of the head.
What sculpting medium do you use??
Martin Antonenko
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garyjd
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Though my comments are pretty much repeating what has already been said, I'll post them anyway. As you can see if you manage to get all the proportions right the rest is a matter of rendering the features correctly. A good foundation (proportions) helps to get you on your way. Keep in mind though that sometimes features stray from the norm, i.e. big ears, nose. I think your well on your way and you WILL see a definite evolution in future pieces. ~Gary
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megroot
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Excellent sculpt.
marc
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Thank you all for the input and direction will heed these thoughts and try to modify the bust if I can't then will start a new onwe with these things in Mind. I used sculpeyIII as the medium the baking is a hassle might try the two part epoxy putty Question can you mix medias like can you add epoxy to sculpey to touch up imperfections as pin holes and deep scratches or is there something else used for this? Pat
garyjd
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Pat, If you play around with different epoxies and Sculpey I'd stay away from combining the two. You can speed up the curing of putty by placing the piece under a desk lamp, but I'd stay away from putting it in the oven as a means of curing. ~Gary
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Gary, Do you know where to get this epoxy putty? And can you cure sculpey with out oven by just putting it under a light?. I have added the mass to the back and chest and am detailing as I go along . I have decided to paint the figure when done , that will be another challenge. Pat
Gary, Do you know where to get this epoxy putty? And can you cure sculpey with out oven by just putting it under a light?. I have added the mass to the back and chest and am detailing as I go along . I have decided to paint the figure when done , that will be another challenge. Pat
garyjd
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You could try to bake sculpey under a lamp, although I think it would take a long time to properly bake a piece. IMO it's really not a practical way to go. I typically bake a piece at 250 degrees for a 1/2 hour. Be sure to ALWAYS let your piece cool in the oven after you're done baking it. This reduces the chance of any cracking or fracturing due to temperature change.
A & B Epoxy putty and Magicsculpt
A & B dries really hard and thus does not carve well. It's works well for detail parts. It's also great for roughed in armatures. Magicsculpt has a waxy smooth look to it after it dries. It polishes nice and carves okay as it does not dry as rock hard as A & B.
http://www.michael-robertsltd.com/scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=1227
Clay Alley carries Apoxie sculpt (white) and Procreate
Apoxie sculpt is a little sticky to work with, but a little vaseline on your hands makes it more workable. Carving properties are great. Procreate is a newer two part putty that I have but have not worked with yet.
http://www.clayalley.com/apoxie.htm
http://www.clayalley.com/procreate.htm
dinovision79
A Fixture
Pat,
I read you can cure sculpey with a heat gun, you can sculpt basically contionously.
Anyone has tried this?
Denes
I read you can cure sculpey with a heat gun, you can sculpt basically contionously.
Anyone has tried this?
Denes
garyjd
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Denes, It's a method I would carefully approach as you need to be concerned with not only heating thicker pieces longer, but being mindful of how high the heat is. If sculpey is overbaked it will burn, bubble, split, burst and all that other bad stuff. ~Gary
carl reid
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Custer
Hi Pat,
You have made a great start. You have recieved some great advice from our fellow friends on the planet. My advice would be take one medium and become an expert with it, there is a danger of trying all manner of products/mediums and never mastering any. I have used most mediums over the years I currently use Magi-sculpt, this a 2 part epoxy putty that doesn't require a heat source to cure, but can be force dried with gentle heat. This enables you to keep working. I also use modelling wax, but this is only suitable if the piece is a master to be moulded and eventually cast for production. The second piece of advice is go to your local book store and find books regarding human anatomy this can be in the format of the medical books of which there are many, or art based books again there are many. But if you go to the store you can thumb the pages and pick the best ones for you. You see Pat the proportions and anatomy are the most important parts of creating a figure/bust. Because no matter how well the detail is applied if the figure is out of proportion or the anatomy is unrealistic the detail will never hide it. But if the figure is correct in it's proportion and realistic in it's movement the detail will only enhance what is already a great figure. I hope I have given some advice albeit repeated possibly. But we are all willing to help if we can my friend!!!
Kepp up the great work Pat.
Carl
Hi Pat,
You have made a great start. You have recieved some great advice from our fellow friends on the planet. My advice would be take one medium and become an expert with it, there is a danger of trying all manner of products/mediums and never mastering any. I have used most mediums over the years I currently use Magi-sculpt, this a 2 part epoxy putty that doesn't require a heat source to cure, but can be force dried with gentle heat. This enables you to keep working. I also use modelling wax, but this is only suitable if the piece is a master to be moulded and eventually cast for production. The second piece of advice is go to your local book store and find books regarding human anatomy this can be in the format of the medical books of which there are many, or art based books again there are many. But if you go to the store you can thumb the pages and pick the best ones for you. You see Pat the proportions and anatomy are the most important parts of creating a figure/bust. Because no matter how well the detail is applied if the figure is out of proportion or the anatomy is unrealistic the detail will never hide it. But if the figure is correct in it's proportion and realistic in it's movement the detail will only enhance what is already a great figure. I hope I have given some advice albeit repeated possibly. But we are all willing to help if we can my friend!!!
Kepp up the great work Pat.
Carl
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