WIP Critique GIs playing baseball.
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Ferris
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Very Nice Carl!
How About some white lines on the ground?
Cheers,
Adrian
How About some white lines on the ground?
Cheers,
Adrian
Edorta
A Fixture
I like this vignette so much, Carl. Can you tell us how do you have done the ground, please?
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Thanks for taking the time to comment chaps.
The groundwork is a rough coat of Milliput, then coated with white glue(PVA) with a scattering of sand over that. I painted it brown then applied raw sienna, burnt umber and a touch of black in oil washes, allowing them to bleed into each other. It needs, dry brushing, some grass and the pitch marking out.
Cheers,
Carl.
The groundwork is a rough coat of Milliput, then coated with white glue(PVA) with a scattering of sand over that. I painted it brown then applied raw sienna, burnt umber and a touch of black in oil washes, allowing them to bleed into each other. It needs, dry brushing, some grass and the pitch marking out.
Cheers,
Carl.
Don Johnson
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Carl, I love what you've done with these figures. My only niggle is with the positioning, relative to each other.
As GIs, these guys would instinctively know that the catcher must have a clear sight line to the pitcher. The hitter doesn't stand on home plate, but rather off to one side, so that his swing carries the bat over the plate. The pitcher, catcher and the plate are in line with one another.
Just as we did as kids, anything flat and stationary can serve as home plate. Another baseball glove. A shirt or jacket. A k-rations box. Or a piece of wood, shaped in the unique 5-sided "square-with-point", and painted white.
One possible alternative: turn the catcher about 10 degrees to his right. Turn the batter about a quarter-turn, so his back faces the viewer's right side of the base. The grass clumps are good, but temporary fields didn't necessarily have lines (painted [and thus messy], or marked with powdered lime).
All of this is offered in the same manner as if I were to attempt a cricket vignette, and had not accounted for certain key elements. I would hope, and even expect, that you would give me course corrections!!
Best regards, Don
As GIs, these guys would instinctively know that the catcher must have a clear sight line to the pitcher. The hitter doesn't stand on home plate, but rather off to one side, so that his swing carries the bat over the plate. The pitcher, catcher and the plate are in line with one another.
Just as we did as kids, anything flat and stationary can serve as home plate. Another baseball glove. A shirt or jacket. A k-rations box. Or a piece of wood, shaped in the unique 5-sided "square-with-point", and painted white.
One possible alternative: turn the catcher about 10 degrees to his right. Turn the batter about a quarter-turn, so his back faces the viewer's right side of the base. The grass clumps are good, but temporary fields didn't necessarily have lines (painted [and thus messy], or marked with powdered lime).
All of this is offered in the same manner as if I were to attempt a cricket vignette, and had not accounted for certain key elements. I would hope, and even expect, that you would give me course corrections!!
Best regards, Don
Guy
A Fixture
Excellent work Carl.
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Yep, rotate the batter so that he is looking in the same direction as the catcher. Move him back (his back) slightly a little as well. For games like this one, they may or may not have had anything for a home plate, but it would be visually interesting if they had something oddball being used for it. I like the idea of a piece of plastic or card made to look like the top of a C or K-ration box. Lines wouldn't be likely, they probably wouldn't take the time to make a real field, just some bases in the right places and a spot for the pitcher to pitch from. Some grass will make the ground much more interesting, just show it worn in the areas where they stand and run. As you can see from this pic, they would pretty much play on any flat, dry area, regardless of the surface. This one looks to be high grass or straw. The batter in this one has taken a MIGHTY swing, and thats why he is facing a bit away from the pitcher. Not good form!
Cheers
Jason
Cheers
Jason
Thanks for taking the time to call in. Don thanks for your input, it'll be easy enough to reposition them. Could I use a helmet as a temporary home plate, and where would it be positioned. I know less about baseball than I do cricket, and that stretches to they wear white and have bats.
I should have paid more attention to the box art.
Thanks again,
Carl.
I should have paid more attention to the box art.
Thanks again,
Carl.
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Don Johnson
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Something flatter than a helmut, I would think, Carl. You have to step on "home" to score a run. A Panther tank roadwheel. A flattened gerry can. A folded tarp. A piece of a window shutter or door. A dinner plate, or metal food tray.
The box art gives you the relative positioning. Use the Shep Paine rule, however, and angle the action so the sight lines are not facing the viewer directly, or perpendicular to the base edges. Such a treatment would "soften" (if that's the word...) all of the angular aspects of the scene - the lines or base paths, the upright bat, the common sight lines of batter and catcher and the implied flight of the ball, home plat if you use the traditional shape.
Make the ground a little uneven, too, as Jason mentioned; for a "pick-up" (informal) game like this, any relatively flat spot - cow pasture, farmer's field - would suffice. (The flat manicured lawns were probably being used by Brits for cricket! To be fair, Warriors should have done the UK version of this vignette, too!!)
The box art gives you the relative positioning. Use the Shep Paine rule, however, and angle the action so the sight lines are not facing the viewer directly, or perpendicular to the base edges. Such a treatment would "soften" (if that's the word...) all of the angular aspects of the scene - the lines or base paths, the upright bat, the common sight lines of batter and catcher and the implied flight of the ball, home plat if you use the traditional shape.
Make the ground a little uneven, too, as Jason mentioned; for a "pick-up" (informal) game like this, any relatively flat spot - cow pasture, farmer's field - would suffice. (The flat manicured lawns were probably being used by Brits for cricket! To be fair, Warriors should have done the UK version of this vignette, too!!)
dArtagnan
A Fixture
Excellent work, Carl! Very cool figures to!
Eddy
Eddy
captnenglish
A Fixture
Nice job so far Carl; makes me want to pull my set out of the stash and slap some paint on it.
MBD
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nicely done...the bat could do with a bit more work, i supose you knew it
Are yo planning to place static grass..I wouldn't but just some markings on the ground...
Well done mate
Are yo planning to place static grass..I wouldn't but just some markings on the ground...
Well done mate
tankman3rd4id
Active Member
Carl, i live for baseball better than modelling for me close but baseball wins i found a picture of a field that should be a good start for you.
i built this a long time ago and i used a backpack for home plate. .
RICK.
i built this a long time ago and i used a backpack for home plate. .
RICK.
Edorta
A Fixture
Thanks for taking the time to comment chaps.
The groundwork is a rough coat of Milliput, then coated with white glue(PVA) with a scattering of sand over that. I painted it brown then applied raw sienna, burnt umber and a touch of black in oil washes, allowing them to bleed into each other. It needs, dry brushing, some grass and the pitch marking out.
Cheers,
Carl.
Thanks for your explanation, Carl. I asked you beacouse I recently finished a figure, ( soon on Planet Figure) and as you, for the ground, I´ve used a mixture of sand from the beach and white glue , the final texture is similar as yours.
Cheers.
Edorta.
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meizi
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Very nice Carl!! Will be glad to see when it's finished!
Congratulations.
Meizi
Congratulations.
Meizi
theBaron
A Fixture
Well, some batters do, but any pitcher worth his salt will knock him on his can
Great vignette, Carl, and it appeals to me as a baseball fan, too. I agree with those who say that you don't need any markings. This looks like a pick-up game, ie, for those born outside the US, a spur-of-the-moment game, scratched together with whatever equipment anyone might have had, and played wherever there was enough room (like playing pickle in the backyard, or stickball in the street). Don et al are correct, they would have grabbed anything flat to use for home plate, same for the bases. I don't think they would have bothered to lay out the base paths and foul lines, unless they were in the rear area, where things were stable and there was time to lay out a more formal ball field.
Looks great!
Prost, and Go Phillies!
Brad
