Grenadier drummer statue

[Mat Lambert]

I was at the National Museum of Wales in Cardiff this week and this sculpture in the entrance hall caught my eye - I was sure I had seen a figure sculpt based on it. Any ideas?

Apologies for the poor photo. There was a rather fine Celtic figure behind it too but didn't get a photo of that one.
Cheers Mat

 

[peedee]

?
There may have been a Stadden or Barton 90mm drummer years ago.
There's something hazy in My mind too, but I can't see it on their lists

The only sculpt I have seen is an Identical one as part of the King's regimant Memorial in Liverpool
In St. John's gardens behind St. George's hall.

I do wonder iif it is 'The memorial to all Minden regimants' and YOU
may have seen it elsewhere as a monument too

Paul

 

[Blind Pew]

I too am certain this has been done in miniature. I'm sure it is Barton miniatures.

 

[peedee]

It's not barton guys they do three drummers, landsknecht, ACW and this onw K55 Anglian drummer present day is the listing code and description
It was the seated pose I remembered
Not the dri-hiink, oops pardon

Paul

 

[peedee]

Hi Mat

Here's the Liverpool version of the same statue.
Please forgive the camera qualiity on my Phone !
I can't get them to auto rrotate on this format of Blackberry

Paul

 

[Mat Lambert]

Hi Mat

Here's the Liverpool version of the same statue.
Please forgive the camera qualiity on my Phone !
I can't get them to auto rrotate on this format of Blackberry

Paul

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Thanks Paul, that all makes sense - I did some work a few years back on the Kings Regiment displays at the Museum of Liverpool and I remember now seeing this bronze statue then (think they may have had a tabletop centrepiece version too in the display case). I probably have a good picture of it that I could post later.
So maybe I just saw the one in Cardiff and made a misconnection with the Liverpool one I had seen earlier - but still thinking I've seen something very similar in miniature!
Cheers
Mat

 

[peedee]

This statue is in the gardens opposite that museum.
It's been moved now to the waterfront museum.
I'm sure that by now there must have been a model of it, even if it was a one off.
I'd do myself if I had the time, it's a cracker.
Not convinced by the plume though !
I wonder if any others are out there and if the 'minden'' regiments are the connection?
It would make a great conversion piece from historx spares an a bit 'o putty.
I do believe I've convinced myself. !
Maybe after xmas, too much on now though.
Paul.

 

[Mat Lambert]

Hi Paul, the new waterfront museum was the one I worked on - quite a good display of kings regiment artefacts inside.
Just noticed the plume - a bit suspect as far as I know on this subject.
Be interested to see how you do on a sculpt/conversion of this if you start one.
Cheers
Mat

 

[peedee]

Yes I was down there with Housecarl a few weeks ago.
The display itself is great, but sadly they have the room far too
dark to see it all properly when it's bright outside.
Crackers it is mate, crackers.
Do you make this marlburian period?

 

[billyturnip]

Wrong period/war but very similar to this by Ken.




http://www.milmartminiatures.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=94_103&product_id=95

Roger.

 

[peedee]

Oh wow that's so close to the original pose,
Good spot Roger
Paul

 

[billyturnip]

I have it in my collection, it's a lovely piece and deserves some paint. (We flatists don't have grey armies, collections sounds better as a justification ).

Roger.

 

[peedee]

I've always used the damw phrase without thinking about it.

I'm also thinking , just thinking of going to see Kulmbach next august.

Almost certain to collect more from the editors, not engravers !

He he he he
Have a good day mate,
Paul

 

[billyturnip]

Hope you have a good day too Paul, I'm hoping to give the collection a lick of paint after walking the dog and nowt else.

Roger.

 

[peedee]

I didn't know you were home,
You must love the peace n quiet when you're back.
Right I'm starting now, catch ya later.
Paul

 

[Mat Lambert]

Yes I was down there with Housecarl a few weeks ago.
The display itself is great, but sadly they have the room far too
dark to see it all properly when it's bright outside.
Crackers it is mate, crackers.
Do you make this marlburian period?

Hi Paul
I think you're right about the displays at MOL - they are very dimly lit.
I found the image on my work computer of the maquette for the memorial found in the collection - thought you may be interested.

The description says its of a young drummer at the battle of Dettingen 1743.
Thanks for recognising this from my Cardiff photo as I would have forgotten I think! It's the the type of subject Maurice Corry may have done in a larger scale I thought?

I don't have any figures of this period although I do love the look of it so have a few books etc. and hope to do some in the future. Do you?

Cheers
Mat

 

[Mat Lambert]

Here's the maquette image again as I got an error after posting the first time

 

[peedee]

Pictures came through fine it is lovely isn't it ?
It just shows you don't have to go far for inspirationm
Yeah moz would've done that justice, as would Carl Reid, (from the waist up), ha ha.
Yeah I've got a few small 54's and 80mms, nice period,
Loadsa colour on the drummers with their mitrecaps and the prussians are lovely uniforms too.
The flat figure world is full of those.

So .... Yeah defo have a go at this in the new year, fancy a group buid "against each other" ? Could be fun.
I would build it from bits in my spares box with a sculpted mitre
Paul

 

[Mat Lambert]

Now there's a challenge, especially as its a bit out of my comfort zone on the sculpting/conversion front. But why not! New Year you say - PM me when you're ready to start.
Cheers
Mat

 

[peedee]

Ok, could be fun, maybe some more takers too who knows ?
I will get back to you for sure sir !
Cheers
Paul