johnbrewer
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Talking to Robin at the weekend and we both agreed that it would be great to see a few sbs on how to do groundwork. Any takers?
Groundwork
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We were at a show on Sunday and were discussing Groundwork, we were wondering what different poeples approaches were as you see a vast difference in groundwork.
For instance
1) what is your ideal base size for different figures
2) do you research what the groundwork was like on the day (if you are doing a particular battle) etc
Guys articles are great, we just wondered how other people approach it.
Robin
For instance
1) what is your ideal base size for different figures
2) do you research what the groundwork was like on the day (if you are doing a particular battle) etc
Guys articles are great, we just wondered how other people approach it.
Robin
Johan
A Fixture
Of course
. Want a few examples of weather conditions during some battles?I think what John and I are looking for is an idea of the whole approach people have to groundwork, materials used etc. As we often share painting techniques but not very often groundwork techniques to the same extent.
though examples would be good
Robin
though examples would be good
Robin
Johan
A Fixture
I see, Robin. Well, I guess most of us would do a minimum of research on groundwork and weather conditions "on that day" ... as for size of bases, well it also depends on what you want to do - just focusing on the figure, in which case you'd keep groundwork to a minimum, or else putting the figure in a "scenery" which might be part of the "story-telling".
Two examples:
- a beautifully, gorgeously painted Metal Modeles figure, which you put on a pedestal with a minimum of groundwork because you don't want anything to detract from the figure.
- a mountain man or native american figure, which I'd personally incorporate in some kind of scenery ... some "wilderness"!
That's just my personal approach of course.
ok, some well known examples of weather conditions then:
- Waterloo: in between and during heavy rainfall and June thunderstorms - must have been a muddy affair.
- Eylau: snowfall, freezing cold February(?) day.
- Austerlitz: a cold but bright and sunny December day.
Two examples:
- a beautifully, gorgeously painted Metal Modeles figure, which you put on a pedestal with a minimum of groundwork because you don't want anything to detract from the figure.
- a mountain man or native american figure, which I'd personally incorporate in some kind of scenery ... some "wilderness"!
That's just my personal approach of course.
ok, some well known examples of weather conditions then:
- Waterloo: in between and during heavy rainfall and June thunderstorms - must have been a muddy affair.
- Eylau: snowfall, freezing cold February(?) day.
- Austerlitz: a cold but bright and sunny December day.
johnbrewer
A Fixture
Me again, how about water effects, you know clear water, running water, waves, etc. Snow, slush, frost. Different types of grass and stuff that grows in water. Just about everything really.
johnbrewer
A Fixture
I take the lack of replies to be a no then.
Joe Hudson
A Fixture
Hey John,
Sorry I missed this thread. I for one am always trying to make the groundwork better and I can only give what I have used. For the snow on Napoleon, I used a product from the rail road guys. I mixed it with baking soda and then put it down matt medium.
Joe
Sorry I missed this thread. I for one am always trying to make the groundwork better and I can only give what I have used. For the snow on Napoleon, I used a product from the rail road guys. I mixed it with baking soda and then put it down matt medium.
Joe
Guy
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Sorry about the slow response.............I have done water (shallow puddles) using 5-minute epoxy with the area to be covered darker. I usually do this on a relatively small base with a single figure. I did try a waterfall using epoxy and it worked out pretty good. I did it in sections on wax paper then with a toth pick added the 5 sections together. Each seam was invisable due to the epoxy being clear. I touched up the tips with a dash of white and added trees at the top. The water splashing upwards was also attached with epoxy......again no seam visable.
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Guy
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The base was part of a former neighbors pedestal table he was throwing away and I was able to detach the legs and got about 8 bases from each leg. The base was then cut down to give the room needed for the cliff and the waterfall and Model railroad "Mountains In Minutes" was used for the cliff. The trees are hand made using tapered dowels and dried flowers turned upside down. each branch was pre-drilled and attached. The entire tre was spray painted Forrest Green and the trunk and major limbs were painted with acrylic brown.
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Guy
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I have plans to re-do this base and I would reinforce the waterfall with clear epoxy rod (made on wax paper) to support the now sagging waterfall. This scene was made about 15 years ago.
guy
guy
Johan
A Fixture
.... Guy, this is great. That's exactly what I mean when I say a mountain man or a native American should be displayed as part of a bit of wilderness. My hat off to you
Thank you, my friend. This is something I'd love to do myself one day in 120mm with a PiLiPiLi figure ............ problem will be finding a base that's big enough I guess.
But don't they say: where there is a will there's a way?
Lovely work Guy - guess we'll talk about this one later on or something?
Oh, and this:
Thank you, my friend. This is something I'd love to do myself one day in 120mm with a PiLiPiLi figure ............ problem will be finding a base that's big enough I guess.
But don't they say: where there is a will there's a way?
Lovely work Guy - guess we'll talk about this one later on or something?
Oh, and this:
Guy
A Fixture
Thanks Johan,
I would like to paint Quang's "Two Guns of The Blackfeet" and replace the figure on the top of the waterfall with him. Have Two Guns looking out over the waterfall. I'll get to it sometime
guy
I would like to paint Quang's "Two Guns of The Blackfeet" and replace the figure on the top of the waterfall with him. Have Two Guns looking out over the waterfall. I'll get to it sometime
guy
Johan
A Fixture
Guy, if I'm correct Quang's Two Guns is really a Moose hunter ... wonder if it's feasible to do a Moose as well, fe. drinking from the water below
.... maybe a major conversion of a 120mm horse?
... Well, just an idea.....
.... maybe a major conversion of a 120mm horse?
... Well, just an idea.....
johnbrewer
A Fixture
Hi all, I have been using Micro ballons for my snow effects. These ballons are devils to inflate for parties but look very good as snow .
What a cool piece of work on the waterfall. I have seen that andrea have a clear water product out, anyone tried it?. Nimix also sell a water product but i think I have read somehere that there can be problems with the miniscus, for the spelling challenged like myself the bit at the edge!. I have always admired Phil Kesslings Samurai with the Koi carp in the pond.
I have always liked the idea of producing a mounted figure with the horse drinking from a lake or stream, with vegatation growing in the water, Lillies perhaps . See recent Pegaso Lancer for the basis.
For long grass I have always used feathers from my fly tying kit. Deer hair for very long grass. always a worth looking into are the fly tying sections, lead wire is always useful.
What a cool piece of work on the waterfall. I have seen that andrea have a clear water product out, anyone tried it?. Nimix also sell a water product but i think I have read somehere that there can be problems with the miniscus, for the spelling challenged like myself the bit at the edge!. I have always admired Phil Kesslings Samurai with the Koi carp in the pond.
I have always liked the idea of producing a mounted figure with the horse drinking from a lake or stream, with vegatation growing in the water, Lillies perhaps . See recent Pegaso Lancer for the basis.
For long grass I have always used feathers from my fly tying kit. Deer hair for very long grass. always a worth looking into are the fly tying sections, lead wire is always useful.
