I have had it with Vallejo paints

[Jeff]

Ok I know that every one just loves Vallejo paints but after quite a few years using them I am gonig to go back to the paint that I used years ago. Duncan Bisq-stain. I love the fact that it is opaque. I can under caot a figure in one pass, not the three passes it takes with Vallejo. The Duncan paints can be thinned to very nice washes. I even like the color selecton. They do not have a lot of what you might call military colors but they can all be mixed.

http://www.misterart.com/store/view.cfm?gr...=1406&store=003

My friend Peter uses Vallejo paint and gets really beautiful results, but no matter how much advice I get from him I just do not enjoy using them. I do not even like the bottles that much. So I am going back the Duncan paints for my acrylic painting. Am I the only one who is not in love with Vallejo.

Best
Jeff

 

[Einion]

Originally posted by Jeff@Mar 14 2006, 06:27 AM
Am I the only one who is not in love with Vallejo.

Nope, I don't like them myself either. I've always used some variation of artists' acrylics to paint the bulk of my figures.

Einion

 

[MattS]

Jeff,

Go with what works best for you, I always say. Btw, I use mostly Vallejo's and some Andrea paints and I love them. I'll have to check out this other brand you mentioned, though.

Matt

 

[Simon]

I agree, work with those paints which fits your style I use Citadel and Vallejo paint because they are best for me, but there are some peoples which dont like them..

 

[pgarri27]

And I prefer the 54 cent bottles of acrylic craft paint. Can't remember the brand names. I pick them up at Hobby Lobby or Joanns Crafts.

 

[PJ Deluhery]

As has been said above, go with what works for you.

I use oils, but underpaint and do the occasional detail in Jo Sonja acrylics. They come in large tubes, and are reasonably priced, opaque and flat. Results matter more than what media you use.

 

[Einion]

Originally posted by PJ Deluhery+Mar 14 2006, 06:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PJ Deluhery @ Mar 14 2006, 06:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>...underpaint and do the occasional detail in Jo Sonja acrylics. They come in large tubes, and are reasonably priced, opaque and flat. [/b]

I just started using these myself for areas I want to be matt, they're good stuff.

<!--QuoteBegin-PJ Deluhery@Mar 14 2006, 06:28 PM
Results matter more than what media you use.[/quote]
Yep, for us results are all that matter - oils, alkyds, enamels, alcohol-based metallics, printers' inks, vinyl hobby paints, artists' acrylics or lacquers - use what works for a given application

Einion

 

[Brad S]

Ditto, ditto, ditto. Of course use whats best for you. Then you wont get frustrated and lose interest. I like the bulk of my Vallejo, but not all of them. Some colors cover better and some dont. Others thin well and some dont. My light blue will leave water edge lines no matter what I do. I use various brands also. Liquitex, Golden, Ceramcoat, Jo Sonja, Polly Scale, and even watercolors.

Brad Spelts

 

[Jeff]

Well guys I have always felt the same way use what works for you. But I really felt I should be able to master these paints. I started out painting 25mm figures and I made a lot of money in college painting them for friends and taking on commisions when I would sell at cons. I even got a second place at Gen Con with a little 25mm Dwarf. I felt real good about that second place considering first went to a 1/6 scale Predator. I used acrylics for all my painting back then when I would paint 54mm figures I would use enamels.

I started using oil paints after I took Shep Paine's painting class. I really fell in love with them and was really starting to master them when Vallejo came on the scene. I thought lets switch back or use acrylics for some things and oils for others. So I bought a set of Vallejos thinking how diffrent could they be from what I used to use. Most are so transparent that they are very diffrent form what I used before. I thought I could get used to it but I now feel that I have wasted a lot of time trying.

When I posted this I was more then a little frustrated with the Vallejos I was using in fact I had just had to strip a figure I was working on. So I think a little bit of that anger showed it self in my post. A second reason for the switch form Duncan to Vallejos was that they had become really hard to find. I would buy them form statuary stores but most of the places I bought form went out of busness in the late 80's. Now thanks to the internet I have a new source for them. So back I go. I am sure it well take a little bit of time to get the hang of them again but at least I know what to expect form them.

This site shows the color (Or colour for our English friends) range of theDuncan paints better then the other site.

http://www.ceramicartspace.com/ceramics213...937799f85e8e0ee

Best
Jeff

 

[PJ Deluhery]

(Einion March 14, 2006, 2:59PM)
I just started using these myself for areas I want to be matt, they're good stuff.

Einion. I have been using JoSonjas for about 2 years, and I think you will like them. I still have the original tubes I bought at that time - except for new black and white tubes bought a few months ago. Good value!