Lazybones

[Dan Morton]

Roger Newsome and I have been e-mailing back and forth about a future project. Thought I might ask for some help in interpreting the pose, making sure I put it together as anatomically correct, etc. Haven't started on an armature yet.

This is a member of the 22 West Yorkshires near Beaumont Hamel in 1917(?). He's a corporal and a member of a fatigue party. The pose is interesting and a bit comic, but what I really like is the dichotomy. He's probably quite tired, there are bags under his eyes from loss of sleep, worry lines on his brow and yet he's assumed this exaggerated lazy pose for the camera. In my ex-mil experience, that's a pretty common soldierly reaction - "Oh he wants a photo, does he, OK, I'll give 'im one!" Maybe I'm reading too much into it - but that's what I see.

I'm not good at doing the kind of analysis that Quang and Bob Tavis have done on earlier threads. What I'd like to know is where would the 'center of gravity or mass' be for this figure? Would it be right down the centerline of the trunk running between his feet and the pick? Obviously he's in a form of the 'tripod' balanced pose that Quang showed us on Ray Lantz's figure recently. But he also looks just a little off balance to me. How would you imply that in sculpting it? What about that right foot hooked inside the left foot? How does that effect things? Does it, in effect, take away one of the legs of the 'tripod'? Would be interested to hear what you think, folks.

All the best,
Dan

 

[quang]

Originally posted by Dan Morton@Jun 13 2006, 05:36 AM
Obviously he's in a form of the 'tripod' balanced pose that Quang showed us on Ray Lantz's figure recently. But he also looks just a little off balance to me. How would you imply that in sculpting it? What about that right foot hooked inside the left foot? How does that effect things? Does it, in effect, take away one of the legs of the 'tripod'?

Hello Dan,

Quite the contrary, this is NOT a tripod pose.

What's happening is that the guy has put his right leg 'off duty' by hooking it around his left leg (which remains as a support). He's replaced the 'off duty' leg by the pick.

A fitful comparison would be a one-legged man with a crutch.

As for the position of the centre of gravity, just draw a vertical line starting from the head. The centre of gravity is exactly where the line hits the ground.

HTH

Quang

 

[John Long]

WRT poses and center of gravity; I've gotten in the habit of checking web pictures and digital pics of figures by placing the cursor on the center of the head and scrolling down the picture (this in effect draws Quang's vertical line). The cursor will pass directly through where the majority of weight is being borne. In the case of the picture here, doing this shows that most of the weight falls on the subjects left foot.

 

[garyjd]

Dan, That's a pose I've wanted to try for some time. It may not be the easiest pose to do but has been done right in the past with great results. I'll be sitting back and watching this develope.~Gary

 

[Marijn Van Gils]

Hello Dan,

interesting pose indeed!

The weight is on his right leg indeed (taking into account that he is facing us opposite), and the point of gravity is right under it. You can make him very slightly of balance towards the pick, but it would be best not to exagerate this.
Note also how the right hip is higher than the left (as always on the side of the supporting leg), and how the right shoulder is lowered to counter-balance this (not just because the other arm is resting on the pick!). His lower back will be quite hollow.

Bill Horan did a beautifull baseball player with almost this exact pose, leaning on his bat. It is in his Andrea-book, and was in 2003 Euromilitaire. Probably the best figure that was in the competition...

Good luck with the project!

Marijn

 

[Marijn Van Gils]

This is the one: roger hornsby

 

[Einion]

Originally posted by Dan Morton+Jun 13 2006, 11:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dan Morton @ Jun 13 2006, 11:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>What I'd like to know is where would the 'center of gravity or mass' be for this figure? Would it be right down the centerline of the trunk running between his feet and the pick? [/b]

Straight line down from the head, so yep: between the foot and the pick.

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Obviously he's in a form of the 'tripod' balanced pose that Quang showed us on Ray Lantz's figure recently. But he also looks just a little off balance to me. [/quote]
Looks balanced to me; I think, unless he's just about to have to shift position, he has to be

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[Dan Morton]

Thanks so much for the comments guys! Got it!! Very helpful indeed! Isn't it funny that on the leg on which half his weight is being borne - the ankle is turned inside so radically! The weight comes down on the side of the foot and the ankle and not the sole of the foot! I can stand that way but not for very long. Obviously a much younger man than me!

All the best,
Dan