New Release of Fredericus-Rex, August 2009

[conny]

Hello,
here are the new release of Fredericus-Rex.

8 pieces of 54mm flats with heads and banners to stick
There are 12 different heads and 3 different flags are available

More information: http://www.fredericus-rex.de/shop/index.php/cat/c101_American-Civil-War.html

More information:http://www.fredericus-rex.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p807_Landsknecht-1525.html

More information: http://www.fredericus-rex.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p808_Thirty-Years--War--Feldwaibel-.html

More information: http://www.fredericus-rex.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p809_Thirty-Years--War--Musketier-.html

More information: http://www.fredericus-rex.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p810_Thirty-Years--War--Faehnerich-.html

More information: http://www.fredericus-rex.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p811_-Good-Luck-.html

Cheers
Conny

 

[Anders Heintz]

Wow Conny! Your flats never seize to amaze me!

 

[garyjd]

The Civil war flats are a neat idea, but they are really lacking in accuracy. ~Gary

 

[Bluesking]

Very clever idea, I look forward to trying them out

 

[Anders Heintz]

Whats so wrong with the ACW figures Gary?

 

[conny]

Hello,
thanks for the nice words about the flat`s

@Andres: Thanks, I have had the same question to Gary. Here is a picture which we have use for the flat`s

 

[Jason W.]

Conny, great idea but I have to agree with Gary (whom I'm sure will post pictures of what he's talking about). Here's a couple things I noticed.

1. The collars of their coats look to be folded down. Most...Most Confederate uniform jackets had stand-up collars.

2. Typically...I say typically, bed rolls were positioned over the left shoulder as to not interefere with firing. I'm not getting into the "left handy" crap because soldiers were trained to fire with the right as with ALL major armies of the period. Please don't ask for reference on this I don't have time to dig thru manuals, just trust this one. Or just look at contemporary paintings or illustrations.

Take it for what it's worth. Still, great idea and they should paint up nicely.

 

[Anders Heintz]

Good catch on the collars Jason. The blankets is a bit more of a super nitpick, look at Troiani's paintings, and you will see the blanket on both sides of the shoulders.

 

[garyjd]

Whats so wrong with the ACW figures Gary?

I'll post further comments tomorrow as I work nights and not normal hours like a lot of folks. I'll keep them as brief as possible. ~Gary

 

[garyjd]

Conny,

First I want to apologize for not giving my reasons for stating why the pieces were lacking in accuracy. If you're going to make such a statement it's only fair to explain why you feel such a way.

These flats like a lot of other smaller Civil War flats tend to have a very plain and "generic" look about them. The uniforms are very hard to identify what they are as jackets, trousers and other garments could come from the various depots of the Confederate States, and that's leaving out commutation type garments early in the war. Unfortunately a lot of people still feel that these items looked pretty much the same. In some cases they would be right. However, a lot of these garments have some differences though they may be minor. Though you have shown a reference to base these pieces on it's not one I would suggest as a prinary source. I'm familiar with the type of book the illustration shown comes from, books such as this are at best painting guides first and uniform references last IMO.

For me the major issues are the jackets and the equipment. The jackets look like shirts as the collars are folded down and are quite pointy. Jacket corners tended to be angled and or rounded which would produce a different effect. While collars could be turned down I have seen this more in images of Northern troops as opposed to Confederates, and with the individuals wearing frock coats.

Refer to the photograph below for more comments. If you'd like I'll post more images of actual garments and equipment in a follow up post. ~Gary

 

[Jason W.]

Good catch on the collars Jason. The blankets is a bit more of a super nitpick, look at Troiani's paintings, and you will see the blanket on both sides of the shoulders.

I SUPER nitpick, because I care. Yeah, Mr. T is the man. Too bad most figure modelers don't use him as reference. Seriously, this is minutia, but its fact. You do a ratio of soldiers humping a bedroll, you will see maybe one out ten wearing it on the right. Having marched more than a few times with a bedroll when I was a weekend warrior, I would much prefer the left, like my pards did...Just like they did. It feels better when your at the "route step" and if your attempting to fire. Try doing a "right shoulder shift" with a bedroll on your right. Not easy or comfortable.

Hey, all this seems trivial to alot of folks, but if this were a subject you were passionate about, be it WW2 German, modern allied forces in Iraq, whatever... You would be chiming in just as fast.

Don't mean to fire up your post Conny. You are very talented, and are a true artist. Keep up the good work.

 

[Anders Heintz]

I never said that it was the norm that they wore it on the right, just that it did happen. I agree 100% that it would be much better to have it on the left side.

It's ok to nit pick, a bit annoying at time I suppose, but I understand where you come from. We all want to make it as accurate as possible to best represent the history we all love so much. Atleast you do produce some awesome work, while other sit and bitch about how inaccurate everything is and never accomplish anything, so nit pick away my friend, it is after all educational.

 

[garyjd]

Atleast you do produce some awesome work, while other sit and bitch about how inaccurate everything is and never accomplish anything, so nit pick away my friend, it is after all educational.

So what makes the comments of someone who paints and or sculpts any more relevant than someone who does not? Is it still not educational regardless of which party it comes from providing there is a purpose? ~Gary

 

[conny]

Thanks

Hello All,
thanks for the information, now we must change some details of the flat`s. I hope it is possible to do this.

 

[garyjd]

Hello All,
thanks for the information, now we must change some details of the flat`s. I hope it is possible to do this.

Conny,

I'd be more than willing to send you some information if you'd like. ~Gary

 

[conny]

Hello Garry,
yes please send me some information.
Thanks
Conny