Completed Pegaso Miniatures 200mm Praetorian guard figure.

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Good afternoon everybody, Please see attached the recent photo's of my latest figure. It is the 200mm scale Praetorian Guard figure from Pegaso. The figure was acquired already started and has had to be stripped as it was being painted in gloss enamel paints! The progress so far is that the shield arm, head and shield are all stripped and are on the way, although still very much WIP. The body parts and cloak pieces are still in the stripping tub although nearing completion. I have used an industrial shower cleaner diluted 1/10 parts with water and this is effective if rather slow. I take them out each day and give them a good seeing to with an old toothbrush and then submerge them again!

The materials used so far are acrylics, oils and printers inks courtesy of El Greco miniatures. Any comments welcome.
Cheers,
Paul
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Dear Mike, I agree with you. I think that the problem is their size and cost. Nobody is going to make this in white metal because of the cost and weight of the finished model. Having just finished the old Hinchliffe mounted Taisho figure, I can attest to the fact that it is no fun trying to hold just the horse whilst painting it!
If I have understood descriptions of the resin casting process properly, the resin itself effects the silicone mould material and fine detail bits break away resulting in a remould and all the intendant costs. They have apparently a very limited casting life. I can also imagine that if the master was damaged making the mould then it might prove difficult getting the original sculptor to touch up/fix the figure prior to getting it re-moulded. I got this particular figure off Irish Ebay at a very reasonable price but this is rare, most people charge top dollar.
As a side note, a friend of mine got some large scale digital prints done. Luckily (in one way) he did not start them immediately and they lay for some months in their box. The outer surface was cured properly but the inner parts were still liquid and the figures literally swelled up and burst! At least he did not paint them. I think I will stick to the usual manufacturers! Cheers, Paul
 
Fabulous work on one of the best figures (IMHO) Pegaso ever did. Glad I got one of these kits from the Pegaso stall when it was initially released at Euro all those years ago.

Look forward to seeing progress on this one.
Gary
 
I'm not familiar with this figure, or in fact most of the Pegaso range but it really looks good the bits you've done. I like the subtle skin tones.

Cheers Simon
 
Hello Simon, the figure is not that common and an earlier post by Mike told me that it is no longer in production which is a shame as it is a beautiful figure. It is made out of a very high quality resin which works very well. i.e. you don't look like a worker from a Victorian flour mill when you sand sections! As for the skin tones, ( thank you for the kind comments) it's just a preference of mine. I used to manage a Maxillofacial laboratory where we made prothesis for patients who had lost body parts through trauma or cancer and so on. Doing that kind of work, you had to keep things subtle otherwise they would end up looking as if they were wearing theatrical stage makeup so I guess it has been transferred to my painting!. I try to make the shading darker on the smaller scale figures for more contrast.
I have followed your Algerian figure with interest. A great choice of subject as well as your modelling skills.! On a personal note, I hope your hip starts to behave and that you get the replacement one asap. I have two friends who have had the op. and made full recoveries. It has made a huge difference to their lives. Fingers crossed! Cheers, Paul
 
Hi Paul

This is certainly a great find and your definitely bringing it to life , are you using inks on the armour ?

A personal thing I’d do a wash over as well on the metallics

Like the work on the plume very vibrant

Simons commented ref flesh , very natural , do like the 5 o’clock shadow ......would love to know the colours your using for both ?

The scorpions on the shield look good as well

These might be of interest

https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/praetorian-tribune-pegaso-200mm.59601/

https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/praetorian.107813/

Great start following with interest

Have fun @ the bench

Nap
 
Dear Mike, I agree with you. I think that the problem is their size and cost.

Pegaso charge a great deal for their figures. I managed to get the 200mm Templar Knight off eBay for a reasonable price (https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/pegaso-200mm-templar-knight.509810/). Mitches Military Models manage to sell 200mm figures for c. £70. Admittedly all moulds have a limited life span, and very few figures are now cast in white metal, certainly nothing over 100mm.

I look forwards to seeing how this proceeds.

Mike
 
Good afternoon Nap has asked a question over the choice of colours re the face. For flesh I tend to paint in acrylics and in this case it is the basic "Flesh" set from Scalecolor obtained from the excellent El Greco Miniatures here in the U.K. The five O'Clock shadow was obtained by adding Artic Blue in microscopic amounts to my base flesh mix. The Artic Blue is also a Scalecolor Cat. SART-44 I practised first on white card until I arrived at the right shade then applied it to the figure. This technique was also used on the veins on the hand holding the sword.
The plume is a mixture of oils and acrylics. I speed up the drying process of the oils by adding Liquin. Depending on how much you add, the painted area is usually dry by the next morning. Add this sparingly to separate small amounts of paint otherwise your whole palette will set! Once dry the oils are sprayed with Testor's matt varnish. This allows the water based acrylics to wet the area rather than balling up like water on wax!
The armour is still very much WIP but I will use inks to tame the shine. I use Daler & Rowney inks which come with a pipette to drop dispense the said ink. They need a good shake to mix them prior to use.
Of possible interest is Vallejo Studio Acrylics which I have only just come across. They are a High Viscosity acrylic in 58ml metal tubes. They have only just been delivered and I have not had the chance to use them yet. Among the delivery is Garance red which I will use for the Praetorians cloak. The colour is derived from the madder plant so is not too bright. As madder was used in the ancient world I thought it would be a reasonable choice.
Dear Nap thank you for the Praetorian links, much appreciated.
Cheers,
Paul
 
Hello Simon, the figure is not that common and an earlier post by Mike told me that it is no longer in production which is a shame as it is a beautiful figure. It is made out of a very high quality resin which works very well. i.e. you don't look like a worker from a Victorian flour mill when you sand sections! As for the skin tones, ( thank you for the kind comments) it's just a preference of mine. I used to manage a Maxillofacial laboratory where we made prothesis for patients who had lost body parts through trauma or cancer and so on. Doing that kind of work, you had to keep things subtle otherwise they would end up looking as if they were wearing theatrical stage makeup so I guess it has been transferred to my painting!. I try to make the shading darker on the smaller scale figures for more contrast.
I have followed your Algerian figure with interest. A great choice of subject as well as your modelling skills.! On a personal note, I hope your hip starts to behave and that you get the replacement one asap. I have two friends who have had the op. and made full recoveries. It has made a huge difference to their lives. Fingers crossed! Cheers, Paul

Cheers Paul, both for your kind remarks about my modelling and the hip. I'll have an update soon, not been able to get much done with one thing snd another. As for the hip, due to my other injuries the surgeon wants to put my through as a priority which sounds reassuring, in the mean time it's 'hurry up and wait'.

Cheers Simon
 
Dear Stefan and Malc,
thank you for your kind words. I have done a little more on the shields inner face and have finally got the enamel paint off the rest of the figure. There are a few blemishes to be dealt with but he should join the other bits on the bench this coming week.
Cheers,
Paul
 
A shame that this and the other 200mm figures are now oop.

This one's definitely gone but their 200mm Genghis Khan is still available from Pegaso themselves and also from some online dealers - although it's certainly possible that one's now actually OOP as well, and the ones that remain are just left-over stock from the initial run.

- Steve
 
I've managed to do more on the Praetorian figure. He is now assembled and the red cloak is done. There is still a lot of skin tones on the arms and legs to do as well as taming the shine of the armour with some inks. The scorpion shield is coming on as well but needs more work. The basic colour of the cloak is a Vallejo studio acrylic, No.26 Rose Madder. This is the first time I have used this paint and am pleased with it. There is a very high pigmentation used and it therefore thins down nicely. It is also quick drying in thin layers. I will try to get some more done in the coming week.
Cheers,
Paul
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