Pegaso Standard Bearer
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Martin Antonenko
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As far as I know this "pennant" was called "Fanion".
The eagle was with the 1st batallion of a french infrantry regiment.
The other Battalions had no eagles but a battalion marker flag (fanion de bataillon). Decree of 1811 (December 25) and the Agenda of 1812 (February 12) recognized by each battalion, except the first, which was guard eagle, a flag that had earlier decrees called teaching.
The 2nd Battalion flag was white, the third red, the fourth blue, the fifth green, the sixth yellow...:
On these Fanions were - according to each Battalion - different symbols or places of battles sewn.
In addition, each of the eight companies of every batallion had their own Fanion . Those Fanions (Fanion de compagnie) were clearly smaller. Those Fanions were attached to a small rod that the carrier stuck in the barrel of his gun..:
So I think. your figure is a bearer of a "Fanion de compagnie" of the Old Guards. I found only this photo...:
But I asked a friend of mine for more photos, especially of the Old Guards. If he can give me some, I will post them here...
BTW: Cracking paintwork!
Cheers
The eagle was with the 1st batallion of a french infrantry regiment.
The other Battalions had no eagles but a battalion marker flag (fanion de bataillon). Decree of 1811 (December 25) and the Agenda of 1812 (February 12) recognized by each battalion, except the first, which was guard eagle, a flag that had earlier decrees called teaching.
The 2nd Battalion flag was white, the third red, the fourth blue, the fifth green, the sixth yellow...:
On these Fanions were - according to each Battalion - different symbols or places of battles sewn.
In addition, each of the eight companies of every batallion had their own Fanion . Those Fanions (Fanion de compagnie) were clearly smaller. Those Fanions were attached to a small rod that the carrier stuck in the barrel of his gun..:
So I think. your figure is a bearer of a "Fanion de compagnie" of the Old Guards. I found only this photo...:
But I asked a friend of mine for more photos, especially of the Old Guards. If he can give me some, I will post them here...
BTW: Cracking paintwork!
Cheers
Hello
I don't know ( in this particular case) if this can help but it's a specialised site about flags
http://www.warflag.com/
Best
I don't know ( in this particular case) if this can help but it's a specialised site about flags
http://www.warflag.com/
Best
Wings5797
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Hi Martin,
Alas the painting is not from my brushes, it is by Danilo Cartacci. It is certainly well finished.
Thank you so much for taking the time and trouble to find such detailed information, it is brilliant. I was really confused that a sergeant would be called a standard bearer; this task was (I thought) always given to a young officer. Using the musket as a flag staff makes much more sense that it would be a non commissioned position. I had seen this before but didn’t make the association, as you have, with the pole and small axe head. I would be very interested if you and your friend do find any other information or detail on this subject.
My plan is to convert a 200mm Verlinden ‘Old Grumbler’ that I have had kicking around for years. At the moment I can only see this in my crystal ball but as you know good research and planning will make the modelling far easier.
Thank you again Martin, you are always a mine of information on so many subjects.
Best regards,
Keith
Alas the painting is not from my brushes, it is by Danilo Cartacci. It is certainly well finished.
Thank you so much for taking the time and trouble to find such detailed information, it is brilliant. I was really confused that a sergeant would be called a standard bearer; this task was (I thought) always given to a young officer. Using the musket as a flag staff makes much more sense that it would be a non commissioned position. I had seen this before but didn’t make the association, as you have, with the pole and small axe head. I would be very interested if you and your friend do find any other information or detail on this subject.
My plan is to convert a 200mm Verlinden ‘Old Grumbler’ that I have had kicking around for years. At the moment I can only see this in my crystal ball but as you know good research and planning will make the modelling far easier.
Thank you again Martin, you are always a mine of information on so many subjects.
Best regards,
Keith
Wings5797
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Hello Michel,
Many thanks for the link to War Flag.
It is a great site that certainly lives up to its name. It is great source of Flag related information that I will put to good use.
Thank you for replying to my question you have been most helpful.
Cheers,
Keith
Many thanks for the link to War Flag.
It is a great site that certainly lives up to its name. It is great source of Flag related information that I will put to good use.
Thank you for replying to my question you have been most helpful.
Cheers,
Keith
Martin Antonenko
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Hi!
My friend Joachim has found these pictures ...:
This version also appears in the Flag panel of the Grenadiers of the Imperial Guard, from the color of the back shows ...:
Moreover, over it there is the "Fanion" of another company of the Guard can be seen, red with golden shells.
This is all I can say at the moment...
Cheers
My friend Joachim has found these pictures ...:
This version also appears in the Flag panel of the Grenadiers of the Imperial Guard, from the color of the back shows ...:
Moreover, over it there is the "Fanion" of another company of the Guard can be seen, red with golden shells.
This is all I can say at the moment...
Cheers
Wings5797
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These are really good Martin, with the help you have given me I am now really looking forward to starting this project.
Many thanks Martin and please pass on my appreciation to Joachim.
Best regards,
Keith
Many thanks Martin and please pass on my appreciation to Joachim.
Best regards,
Keith
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