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Brad S

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Hello All,

As I try to add more of a base to my figures lately I have been having trouble simulating grass. I have used woodlands scenic fine turf and coarse turf and also static grass. Maybe I'm using it wrong. But I dont like the results. I don't think it looks very good. Any suggestions would be great.

Thanks

Brad Spelts
 
The ground foam turf is nearly useless in the scales we work in. Some use it to good effect, but I've never had any luck with it.

When I use static grass I apply matte medium to the areas where I want grass. I sprinkle a liberal amount of static grass over the area. Press it down lightly with your fingers. Shake off the excess . Blow gently accross the surface and it should make some of the blades stand up and the rest of the excess will blow away. I usually do all this over a box or baking pan so I can reclaim the excess. Hope this helps.
 
Hi Brad

There are some very good options out there that give a brilliant effect, static grass is one of the best for short grass, just that you need to colour it once the glue has dried, using an airbrush makes all the difference.

Another option for medium length grass is Heke static grass, comes in a kind of sheet 15mm thick, you can cut it, tear it just glue into place and colour as above, Heke is usually available from (dare I say this....?) model railway shops.

The last option for long grass is the simplest, go to your local hardware store and pick a couple of cheap natural bristle (not nylon) household decorating brushes. What you can do is cut the bristles off in clumps of 20 - 30 hairs at a time cutting each clump at varying lengths and superglue these to the base at the cut end using the fine ends of the bristles as the tops of the grass. Then colour as above, there is an example below fo a piece of ground work that i finished a couple of months ago....I hope this helps and have fun....

Dave

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Originally posted by btc81504@Jan 11 2005, 10:56 PM
Hello All,

As I try to add more of a base to my figures lately I have been having trouble simulating grass. I have used woodlands scenic fine turf and coarse turf and also static grass. Maybe I'm using it wrong. But I dont like the results. I don't think it looks very good. Any suggestions would be great.

Thanks

Brad Spelts
ou can use some tea leaves after you've drink it
The leaves must be dry and painter with some "lavis"
Best regards
 
Wet tea leaves are a great idea for fallen forest leaves - thanks, Patrick!

Try also unravelled jute twine. It is cheap (a spool lasts forever), and readily available in almost every hardware store. The key with long grass is to keep the tops very uneven and wild looking. Landscape maintenance crews are rarely seen on the battlefield!

Bill
 
Thank you all for your replies. I used the static grass and even blew it to make it stand up, but now it is all laid over and flat. I think that maybe I did that by hand brushing to paint it. I like the airbrush idea.

Brad Spelts
 
The static grass is drying. We'll see what happens.

Keith - That model RR grass looks really good . I think I will have to order some. This last figure of mine is looking pretty good. I dont want to ruin it with badly done scenery. Thanks Keith for the link.

Brad Spelts
 
Dave, Patrick and Bill -- Thank you for your replies. I will try all those ideas. I have been cutting leaves one by one out of some very thin fiber type paper. They actually look pretty good, but I like the tea idea better. Sounds a lot easier.

Thanks again

Brad Spelts
 
Ahh! Grass...

I used about all the mentioned stuff before, and all of it can be very useful. A nice alternative to unraveled jute twine is the wire used by plummers to seal gaps. About the same effect, but doesn't need to be unraveled.

If you use static grass (only usefull for short grass), make sure to decide what effect you want:

1) evenly covered surface (like a lawn): use the traditional method of coating the groundwork with some type of glue (white glue, sightly watered down, works perfect for me), then sprinkle the grass on, then softly blow from the sides to make it stand up. The most common mistake with this method is to apply the grass too thinly. Try to get as much static grass on it as will possibly adhere, for this is really the key to make it look realistic.

2) wild natural look: don't use previous method, but take a small clumb of static grass between some tweezers (don't worry too much about what ends are sticking out), apply a dot of white glue on the groundwork and put the clumb of static grass into this. Blow of the excess and tease the clumb with any tool to give it a natural look. Repeat this, putting different sizes of clumbs next to one another, leaving some gaps here there, untill the surface is covered. Irregularity is the key to a natural look here.

For longer grass, there are also different options:

1) very long, stiff grass: paintbrush bristles, glued on as static grass method n°2 (often easier to dip the bristles in the glue instead of putting the glue on the groundwork). This looks quite stiff and is only good for some effects in my opinion, as repliating the tall strands that often grow from lower patches of grass. Best to combine this with lower grass or it will look overscale.

2) long wild grass: the Heki stuff, or the plummers wire (or unraveled jute twine). The heki fibres are finer, which makes them fantastic for the job, but the plummers wire or jute twine is easier to manipulate in an extra wild look. For both: cut the fibres to length and apply as static grass method n°2. Irregularity is again the key to a good natural look, so vary the length, the density, the size and the placement of the clumbs of grass. Don't apply the heki stuff as a mat but pull out or cut of the fibres, then glue them to the base.

One more tip: don't be affraid of using too much glue (within reason of course!). Usually people use not enough, resulting in not enough fibres attached too the base (thin and unnatural result) or the fibres coming loose during painting. White glue dries transparent, and any marks can be touched up easily during painting.

Last important tip: almost any groundwork material needs to be painted to get it to look good, and so does grass! Even if it has the right colour, the shine is often a bit off, and we also need to think of scale effect...
With anything green in groundwork, be carefull not to make it too bright. Yes, your lawn may look very green indeed, but in 54mm it just looks fake. So make sure to mix in some brown and beige tones, or even highlight with pure drab beige. Many people tend to overdo groundwork and make it into some kind of decorative flowerpiece. I am also guilty of doing this in the past, but it only seems to distract from the figure.

Both airbrushing and brushpainting works, but I have found it easiest to first paint the basic groundwork, then glue on the grass, paint the grass (by brush), and finally retouch the groundwork, making sure to get some groundwork tones on the (base of the) grass also.

Finally, for inspiration:
-Bill's work is still one of the best for nicely understated groundwork, and he has one plenty of figures to check out different effects.
-Gianfranco Speranza has done very nice, althouh more "fancy looking" groundwork in the past, as has Brian Steward in a more distant past.
-The dioramas of Christian Petit are a real inspiration for more elaborate groundwork!

And attached is a dio I did a long time ago (please don't focus too much on the figures! :lol: ), showing the effect of a combination of static grass, plummers wire and some dried flowers trying to mimic a dusty dry Oukrainian summer steppe.


Hope this helps. Best wishes and good luck with the project!


Marijn
 

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