Specific colour

[Ron Tamburrini]

Does anyone know the English equivalent of this colour as there are many hues of violet (oils)

TERRE MORT VIOLETTE

 

[megroot]

I've been searching some hours, and I think it is a very dark violet.
It looks more to the caput mortum color: https://www.google.nl/search?q=terr...=univ&ei=yEMuVd-RO5LvaIuygYgK&ved=0CDEQsAQ4Cg

Marc

 

[billyturnip]

Ron, is this for a specific French uniform or facing colour?

 

[DEL]

Looked far and wide with little success. Even contacted Cornellisen the pigment specialist in london. On discussing it was suggested that perhaps the colour Dead Earth Violet was renamed during victorian times when Purples were very much associated with death. One opinion was that it might simply be a variation of French Ultramarine, using Lapis Lazuli as the base dye with an additional pigment to create a unique dye.
When looking I came across this site. I'm sure you Nap fans are aware of it but I certainly found it interesting.
http://frederic.berjaud.free.fr/Hussards 05/05eHussards.htm

 

[billyturnip]

When looking I came across this site. I'm sure you Nap fans are aware of it but I certainly found it interesting.
http://frederic.berjaud.free.fr/Hussards 05/05eHussards.htm

This is the page from the same site I found when I was looking Derek.
http://frederic.berjaud.free.fr/033edeligne/33e_de_ligne.htm

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

Looked far and wide with little success. Even contacted Cornellisen the pigment specialist in london. On discussing it was suggested that perhaps the colour Dead Earth Violet was renamed during victorian times when Purples were very much associated with death. One opinion was that it might simply be a variation of French Ultramarine, using Lapis Lazuli as the base dye with an additional pigment to create a unique dye.
When looking I came across this site. I'm sure you Nap fans are aware of it but I certainly found it interesting.
http://frederic.berjaud.free.fr/Hussards 05/05eHussards.htm

Black box syndrome comes to mind here

 

[DEL]

This is the page from the same site I found when I was looking Derek.
http://frederic.berjaud.free.fr/033edeligne/33e_de_ligne.htm

Great minds think alike ......... when we find out who they are we'll ask them about Dead Earth Violet

 

[billyturnip]

Great minds think alike ......... when we find out who they are we'll ask them about Dead Earth Violet

The best way to find out is to paint whatever it is any old violet, post a pic and wait for an expert to come along and say it's the wrong shade and produce the evidence.

 

[Mat Lambert]

This could be a completely bum steer but I have a Vallejo colour called Brown Violet (model colour 70887) which could loosely be translated as Earth Violet or Dead Earth Violet. It's an olive drab colour and cross references with federal standard number FS34088 which I think started in WW2 so doubt if it corresponds to anything on Napoleonic uniforms.

Cheers
Mat

 

[Richie]

Just wait for a member of the affiliated wheel tappers, shunters and rivet counters

I think Del's Victorian route would be a good logical explanation

Old Holland do a caput mort violet

Now if you wanted a banana colour - no problem

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

Just wait for a member of the affiliated wheel tappers, shunters and rivet counters

I think Del's Victorian route would be a good logical explanation

Old Holland do a caput mort violet
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Now if you wanted a banana colour - no problem

Cheers Ritchie . leave the monkey food to you

 

[Paul20100]

Ron,
Tête (not terre) morte violette is internationally known as Caput Mortuum.
Originally, this dark brown pigment was obtained from the burnt residues of ground-up mummies, imported from Egypt, in the 19th century. It was used by artists.
Nowadays paint manufacturers use other pigments (iron oxyde...) and the colour is close to a mars violet. I personally make extensive use of Old Holland's caput mortuum.

 

[Viking Bob]

I am at a loss, I also came up with Dead Earth Violet. You just have to love the Victorians?

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

Ron,
Tête (not terre) morte violette is internationally known as Caput Mortuum.
Originally, this dark brown pigment was obtained from the burnt residues of ground-up mummies, imported from Egypt, in the 19th century. It was used by artists.
Nowadays paint manufacturers use other pigments (iron oxyde...) and the colour is close to a mars violet. I personally make extensive use of Old Holland's caput mortuum.

Cheers Paul

 

[Mat Lambert]

Ron,
Tête (not terre) morte violette is internationally known as Caput Mortuum.
Originally, this dark brown pigment was obtained from the burnt residues of ground-up mummies, imported from Egypt, in the 19th century. It was used by artists.
Nowadays paint manufacturers use other pigments (iron oxyde...) and the colour is close to a mars violet. I personally make extensive use of Old Holland's caput mortuum.

I think this must be the answer - well done Paul. Also known as Cardinal Purple and used for painting the robes of religious subjects apparently.
Cheers
Mat

 

[Richard Baxter]

"Tete" (sorry, no circumflex on my keyboard) rather than "terre" rings true. The latin term "caput" used in one of the other posts also means "Head". I just knew that my O level Latin (1968) would come in useful one day.

 

[MarquisMini]

I think that prince august makes a great violet red, which you can add a tiny bit of flat brown and that will do it.
cheers