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megroot

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I've been painting figures for almost tree years.
I noticed that some colours covering the area from the first time, other colours i must paint 3 - 4 time's before they covering.
When i must paint 3 -4 times i found myself painting stripe's.

So, can i see on the tube off oilpaint is the colour transparent or covering.?????
If i can't see it on the tube how can i now that this colour is transparent ????

Anybody could help with this..

Marc
 
Hello Marc,
on each tube you found the follow symbols

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Cheers
Conny
 
Marc,
I know exactly what you mean. The funny thing about it is, the colors that tend to be the most transparent are sometimes the darkest! Sap green, paynes gray and my blue (forget exactly which one) are all very translucent when used straight out of the tube. I find that there are a couple of ways to help your coverage with these paints. First of all a little bit of white will put an amazing amount of opacity into any color. I know you can't always mix white in, but for your midtones and highlights it helps allot. I also tend to mix my shadow tones with some raw umber or even black in them. One, to cut the pure tube color, and two, it also helps in the coverage/opacity. Besides, you dont want most figures to look fresh and new, they almost all can benifit from a bit of "weathering" and the other colors mixed with your base colors help provide a bit of fading, discoloring, "used look" etc.

Now one thing to consider, if you undercoat your surfaces in a base coat, say some sort of acrylics, use a much darker shade than you think you need. I am just now figuring out that on red for instance, if I go almost 2 or 3 shades darker in my base coat color, it helps tremendously in the coverage of my red oils because red tends to be very pesky when it comes to coverage. The midtones and highlights that are mixed with the lighter colors (white, ochre etc.) have no problems at all covering the darker base coat. One other thing to consider, oils are layed on soooooo thin, that you may actually have to go back and re-cover your areas a couple times before you have what you consider a good transition of shadows to highlights. I find myself often painting an area at least twice, to get the contrast I want. It's certainly not rocket science, and I learn something every time I wet a brush!!!! I have only been doing this about as long as you have, it's one long, fun learning experience! :lol: HTH,

Jay H.
OKC
 
Hi Mark, artists' paint is usually classified into four opacity ratings - opaque, semiopaque, semitransparent and transparent, you can see these on the bottom on the colour charts on the Talens website for example (these are now PDF files like here, so you can easily download and keep them on your computer for reference). You may not see these symbols on the label of tubes but they should be listed in colour charts. However do bear in mind that these four groupings are approximations - even within a single class you will notice variation because opacity is unique to every pigment or pigment mixture.

I would not get into the habit of mixing in white purely for opacity reasons, we need to carefully control value - how light or dark - when painting miniatures which is difficult enough without trying to compensate for added white. If you find you do want to try this sort of thing then use grey instead, mixed carefully to the same value as the paint you're adding it to (mix it from Titanium White and Mars Black ideally) but bear in mind this will dull down the colour and you will often have to tweak a mixture with added grey as it can shift the hue (yellows looking greenish for example).

The simple route to better coverage is to buy the best oil paints you can afford because higher pigmentation = better coverage and many cheaper brands are relatively transparent. It's also a good idea to learn which pigments are naturally opaque or cover well because they are very strong (which is not just for opaque colours) and select them preferentially.

When you choose your paints carefully like this you should find that a midtone basecoat colour will work fine and there are sound painting reasons not to try to cover dark underpainting in oil paint as a rule.

Einion
 
Thanks Einion,

I was still hoping that you gave an answer also to this. I only use W&N oilpaints and i have two Rembrandt paint.
So, i think the quality is not the problem, but my stupiness. I gonna look at the W&N site, they must have the chart that you mentioned.

Marc.
 
There was an article in HM not too long ago that addresses the opacity issue. Einion's point about choosing the more opaque colors is addressed (the author lists the more opaque colors). The article is by Steven Weakley and the subject is about painting w/o undercoats.

On another point; I switched to the mars colors to replace many of my earth tones, like burnt sienna, solely based on opacity. It has helped me create more contrast in leathers and fleshtones. Mars black has to be the blackest, most powerful, best covering black ever (IMO).
 
Originally posted by John Long@Nov 9 2005, 12:55 PM


On another point; I switched to the mars colors to replace many of my earth tones, like burnt sienna, solely based on opacity. It has helped me create more contrast in leathers and fleshtones.
Interesting John, I'm gonna have to give that a try. I especially like the idea that it helps you achieve better contrast with leathers as that is what I've been having problems with.

John
 
Issue #24 is the one you want. It actually has two very useful oil painting articles in it. One by Al Safwat, and the one I mentioned earlier by Steven Weakley.
 

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