Uniform reference Crimean War

[Ben-nl]

Hello,
Can anybody help me for good uniform reference for the new figures of Maurice Corry (120-mini).
It is for the 5th Dragoon Guard officer and the Coldstream Guard.

Thanks
Ben

 

[Colin_Fraser]

For the grenadier - Crimean Uniforms: British Infantry by Michael Barthorp, Historical Research Unit Staff

ISBN 0901621188 / 9780901621184 / 0-901621-18-8

Publisher Historical Research Unit

For the Dragoon - Into the Valley of Death: The British Cavalry Division at Balaclava 1854 by John Mollo

Might both be OOP so try ABE, bookfinder or library.

Colin

 

[oldtrousers]

Quite right Colin, and beat me to it! I have both volumes and they would be exactly what you are looking for. As to the second book Colin referenced, anything in this series with Fosten's art is invaluable. Perhaps a more economical approach if you are just getting your feet wet in this era would also be the older Osprey books titled "The British Army On Campaign", which is a four book series focused on Victoria's "little wars', with the second volume dedicated to the Crimean war. BTW, how nice is that Dragoon Officer?

 

[Ben-nl]

Thanks Colin and Scott. Do you have photos?
BTW, the figure is great!

 

[oldtrousers]

Hi Ben, I'm afraid I don't have a scanner here at home so I can't help you with pictures.

 

[Colin_Fraser]

What exactly are you looking for - both boks are very detailed with manyp lates, dress regs, items or equipment etc. Do you have specific questions?

Colin

 

[Paul Kernan]

A bit on the expensive side but in my opinion well worth it, is the Schiffer book "Crimean Memories: Artefacts of the Crimean War, Will Hutchison, Michael Vice and B.J. Small. . This is a beautifully full colour photographed and produced book. There is good coverage of all arms of the army, although I would have liked to have seen a bit more on the Cavalry regts and being on the biased side more on the Highland regiments. The great thing is it is the British army...the bad, it is the British army I would love to see similar volumes on the French/Turkish army and especially the Russian army

 

[Ben-nl]

do you have more info of the stars on the turnbacks of the Coldstream Guard? Is it gold or silver? Is there a badge on his backpack?

 

[Thor123]

I just got the Coldstream Guard figure - unfortunately the musket end is broken and I was looking for a 1854 Enfield replacement. I did some research on the uniform. Here some pics.

 

[Silversurfer]

Hi Ben,
here are some more helpful books:

- Uniforms&Weapons of the Crimean War by Robert Wilkinson-Latham
- Uniforms of the Foot Guards by Brian Fosten & W.Y.Carman
- Uniforms of the British Army, Uniforms of the British Cavalry both by W.Y.Carman
- Historic Uniforms Vol. 5 & 6 by Liliane and Fred Funcken

You can find these books (like me) often at EBay U.K.

The Guards Star on the turnback was white with an uniformbutton in the centre. The buttons were made from pewter.
The barrel of my Guardsmans rifle was broken, too. I´ve replaced it with a brasstube of nearly the same diameter. Looks more realistic than the original.
On the backpack (knapsack) normaly a badge was worn. But this figure wears only the folded greatcoat and a blanket on the back, so there was no badge.

Hope this is helpful for you

Greetings Thomas

 

[Tony Barton]

Thomas just beat me to it... but
The re-enactor is supposed to be aGrenadier, not a Coldstream. ( Beware re-enactors : they are often very good, but they are NOT original references . Where's his moustache ? He has a P.53 3-band Enfield, rather than the P.51 Minie which he should have , etc ))
The Coldstream had the Garter Star , not the Royal Cipher , on their collars and packs. And the turnback badge was a Regimental pewter button on a white embroidered star.
I know you only want details to paint one figure, but you will never regret investing in books. They discuss the whys and wherefores, and give the deeper picture .

 

[Ben-nl]

Thanks all,
My english is not so good, but the details are my problem. The Garter Star, which colour do they have? And the buttons, gold or silver?

 

[kilsh]

All

I believe that Moz will shortly post some instructions and colour guide for the Dragoon on his website.

Regards

Neil

 

[Thor123]

I have these books for British uniforms but don't have access to them until the weekend (I'm out of town) If I see something in them - I'll post it.

British Military Uniforms – tiny 1948 HB
Laver
British Redcoat of the Napoleonic Wars
Windrow
Early Scots Military Uniforms
Booklet
Highland Military Dress
Booklet
Indian Army Soldiers & uniforms org. painting by Chater (dustcover)
Glover
Into the Valley of Death Balaclava 1854 Mollo, Fotsen
Silver Series
Like Hungry Wolves (silver series dustcover)
Silver Series
The British Army – Past & Present (booklet) 9 plates
Simkin
The English Army 1700 – 1714
Moore, booklet
The Frontier a Blaze (silver series dustcover) Barthorp
Silver Series
The Last Charge (silver series dustcover)
Silver Series
The Napoleonic Soldier (dustcover)
Maughan
Uniforms of British Line cavalry & Horse Artillery mid 19th c.
booklet 9 plates
Uniforms of the Foot Guards for 1661 to the present day
Fosten
Waterloo Men: Experience of Battle $45 Haythornthwaite
Silver Series
Wellington’s Army – 1812 -1815 (dustcover) – 8.00
Hamilton Smith
Wellington’s Army (Brassey’s)
Fletcher
Wellington’s Army Recreated in color photos
Leonard
Zulu: Isandlwana and Rorke’s Drift 22Nd-23rd January 1879 (dustcover)
Silver Series
Soldiers' Accoutrements of the British Army 1750-1900 [Hardcover w/dustcover] $12.43
Turner

 

[Tony Barton]

Ben-n , the Garter Star is white embroidery on the soldier's uniforms, with a pewter ( silver) button in the centre.
The Garter Stars appear on the collar , and on the turnbacks . All the other buttons are also silver.
On the backpack ( not worn in the early battles in the Crimea ) it was painted white , with a red cross in the centre of the white Star.

 

[Ben-nl]

Thanks Tony, that helps...