Working with metallics over oil

[chris1]

Hi guys
I'm after some advice please.
I'm currently working on a bust Verlindens Officer of the Chasseurs à Cheval de la Garde which require quite a bit of gold lace.

The problem I've struck is I'm not getting a decent coverage. It doesn't appear to be adhering very well to the oil that is being overpainted.

The gold I'm using is Humbrol mixed with a small amounts of either black /Burnt Sienna/Indian red oil to act a an initial shadow that I progressively lighten.

Do I need to undercoat the metal areas first?
Is there a trick to working with metallic paint?

Thanks

Chris

 

[swralph]

hi Chris, mixing enamel's and oil's does not work,that is why you are not getting good coverage.humbrol gold is a difficult colour to use at the best of times,but if you want to lighten/darken it use enamel paints with it, an acrylic base coat of brown or light brown, desert sand is usually a good idea

 

[Alex]

basecoat of red acrylics or oils then printers inks shaded with oils
never overcoat oils or inks mixed with oils with acrylics

 

[megroot]

On my last bust (Emmanuel de Grouchy) i paint the laces this way.
Undercoat with W&N old gold with burnt umber.
Highlighting with old gold and shading with burnt umber.
After totally dry I picked up the goldpaint from the bottom of Humbrol gold.
Then with W&N Liquin and the paint from under of the can I painted up the highest highlight.

Marc