Young's Miniatures USMC YM 1880

[jimz66]

Ok so I have a question for those of you who have the NEW AK Interactive figure book. This particular figure appears in many locations in this book.

Pages 40-41, 95, 208-209, and 256-257. On page 224, is an Alpine Miniatures 1/16 scale USMC (At least I THINK its Alpine Miniatures) Anyway can I paint the YM figure in that scheme on page 224? Or are the garments not the same? Would it look incorrect? Thanks everyone. Happy Painting.

HAPPY TREES

 

[Nap]

Not seen the book

Can you show pictures from it that you mention

Nap

 

[jimz66]

Sorry Nap, I don't really have a great way to photograph the book. Here's some screen shots from Young's Miniatures page and Alpine Miniatures page. The bust is the one from Young's Miniatures and the charging Marine is from Alpine. I want to paint the bust like the charging Marine.

 

[Bundook]

Of course you can. The charging Marine is wearing the "Utility uniform, HBT, camouflage" first issued in mid-1943 to Raiders, Para-marines, snipers and so on but on more widespread issue by the end of 1943. It was fully reversible; one side had a green and brown pattern (meant to blend in with "parched grass") and the other side had a pattern made up of only browns (theoretically to be used in beach assaults). Apparently quite popular at first because of the "elite" cachet associated with those troops who received the first issue of it. There was also a modified variant from 1944 but this deleted the patch pockets. If someone can show me how to post pics here I could even put up some pics of the patterns.
In what you can see of the shirt ("coat" was the official term at the time) in the bust, the cut of the camouflage utilities was identical to the standard 1942 sage-green utilities.

 

[Nap]

Hi Bundook

Pics are easy https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/how-to-upload-images-to-planetfigure.245451/

PM me and I will do a SBS for you if it's easier

Nap

 

[jimz66]

Of course you can. The charging Marine is wearing the "Utility uniform, HBT, camouflage" first issued in mid-1943 to Raiders, Para-marines, snipers and so on but on more widespread issue by the end of 1943. It was fully reversible; one side had a green and brown pattern (meant to blend in with "parched grass") and the other side had a pattern made up of only browns (theoretically to be used in beach assaults). Apparently quite popular at first because of the "elite" cachet associated with those troops who received the first issue of it. There was also a modified variant from 1944 but this deleted the patch pockets. If someone can show me how to post pics here I could even put up some pics of the patterns.
In what you can see of the shirt ("coat" was the official term at the time) in the bust, the cut of the camouflage utilities was identical to the standard 1942 sage-green utilities.

Thanks Buddy

 

[Bundook]

I just found out that there already is a thread on this in PlanetFigure : USMC WW II Camo Colors | planetFigure | Miniatures
Please consult that page. I have also annotated a snippet of one of the images from that page to highlight the difference between the green and brown sides. Exactly the same pattern was used but the browns were lightened, the light green was deleted and the dark green turned into a brown shade. Please compare the two areas I have drawn around in red. These were usually always worn green side out but note that you can see the brown pattern where the collar is turned back (and on rolled cuffs).

There is one patch pocket on the [wearer's] left breast and you can see the seam of the pocket on the inside on the right breast. The coat also had one patch pocket on the right skirt (but this is not visible on the bust).
More details: the USMC crest was in black paint and often the wearer's name and rank were stencilled in black above the breast pocket and across the shoulder blades.
This page also shows some good modern repros which might give an idea of how they looked when new: Pattern 1942 USMC P42 Camouflage Jacket Light Tone (sofmilitary.co.uk)
The nomenclature is a bit confusing; M1942 is a US Army designation for one piece camouflage suits. The USMC two piece reversible suits are often called "1942 pattern" or "P-42" but that terminology dates from the end of the Korean war only. The suits were not issued to Marines until mid-1943.
I hope that helps.

 

[Bundook]

Pics are easy https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/how-to-upload-images-to-planetfigure.245451/

Thanks. That was indeed very easy.

 

[jimz66]

OK but that's a completely different garment. The one on the boxtop is a single color not a camouflaged one.

 

[Bundook]

OK but that's a completely different garment. The one on the boxtop is a single color not a camouflaged one.

?! Sorry if I misunderstood. You originally said "I want to paint the bust like the charging Marine". So, yes, you'd have to modify the buttons and holes on the bust a bit but in reality the two garments are otherwise the same herringbone twill material and cut. Anyway, it's your figure. I'll bow out of this now.

 

[Forté]

Your question is effectively "can I paint it this way" and the only answer to that question is "yes. You're free to paint your collection however you want". It's really up to you how much notice you take of people declare themselves to be an 'expert in the field'. Personally, you're paying for the products and putting the time so paint how you want, research as much as you want, and enjoy it. If someone has an issue with that they can buy and paint their own.