54mm Norman Archer Sculpt

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Hi Anders :(

I concur with you that if you can salvage the piece, please save it........ also I was sure that you measured the legs as this is imperative in any sculpt, could it be that when you fleshed out the legs the knee on the left leg may have been slightly misplaced a bit beneath? If so, can you re sculpt that area and see how it looks before you decide if you'll start all ovcer again..........I think you can correct it this way without any more problems........

Hope this helps a bit :(

Regards and best of luck........

Ray :)
 
Anders,

I don't want to say one way or the other. I've been on the wrong end of advice before that was based solely on an internet photo. But the hips before you added the tunic looked right to me as far as angle. I'd go back and measure off the head lengths and see if the hips, knees and feet fall where they should based on a good anatomy drawing. Off hand, I don't remember where the knees and hips should fall (I'm a bust man). But if it all measures out right, then you should be ok.
After repositioning the belt.

HTH

shane
 
Anders,

Skirt looks good. I can't comment on the anatomy. I have difficulty in this area of body dynamics.

Fellas, the eyes are small beads. They come in a plastic tube with enough to make eyes for a small nation. I think you can find them in the scrapbooking section of Michael's or somesuch. They're designed to be poured onto a glued surface to create textured decorations I think.
 
Anders. If you were doing a little later figure, say.... late 12th early 13th c. you could change little and still salvage the figure. Making him an English longbowman rather than a Norman at Hastings. The standard weapon used at Hastings by the the Norman archers from Louviers and Evreux employed by William, was the short bow, about four feet in length and drawn to the body rather than the ear. Still possibly a viable position or stance for your archer to be in with his step forward stance. Since the only real documentation for that battle is the Bayeux Tapestry and it is not very "clinical" in its representation of its archers, (with only 1 saxon depicted holding a short bow and the rest Normans)though if you've seen bushmen using short hunting bows that would be somewhat similar they have a weird stance when they shoot. (There is no evidence of longbows used at the battle of Hastings, despite it being a Danish invention and several were found in 1863 that were dated to aprox 400AD measuring 5'-6' and being D shaped in cross section, the evidence and record supports the shorter self bow used by the normans. Saxons thought of the bow as a hunting tool rather than a Norman killing weapon ;) )

The Saxons were atop a slope or hill so the Normans would have been shooting upward to try and draw them out. Something to think about.

Because of the long bow's weight and strength required to pull it, a stance that was labeled as "stepping into the bow" was adopted. If you look at images of the hundred years war from the Grande Chronique, amongst other manuscript images from the same period, you would see several archers using this stance. It requires one to step into the pull and point a toe forward towards the target and drawing back to the ear. This stance was required to push the stave out at the same time the string is pulled back. This moves the chest forward and pivots the upper torso forward from the waist. With the archer in much the same stance as your figure.

Despite this being a slightly exagerated longbow stance, I see no reason why you couldn't use it for your Norman archer using a shorter self bow.
 
Originally posted by Anders Heintz@Oct 28 2005, 01:38 PM
Hola Teasung!

He will be shooting an arrow.

I'll start on a new mannequin this afternoon, any other suggestions before I start?
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Yea... send the old one to me ;)

Really nice job, you got some beautiful folds in. The next can only be better!
 
Folks,

There is some debate over the type of bow used at Hastings. Some authors do claim it was a long bow. Just perhaps a little less in size from those known during the HYW. So nothing is written in stone here. Renarts comments about stepping into the bow are good. This is one of those fine details that is often overlooked. And shooting uphill is an excellent point if you really want to depict Hastings.

Shane
 
Excellent discussion points!

Renarts,

Great images, those poses looks pretty funky though! I think they would look weird in miniature to be honest, even though it may be how they did it.

I am working from a plate, attached below. It states that he is using a bow almost his own height but only draw to his jaw or chest, I made mine about up to shoulders, will post pictures of this later today.

I just really like te pose and the possibility to sculpt and paint a simple figure but still have a nice one at the end of the day.

I decided to try to 'salvage' it and will redo the belt as I honestly dont see anything wrong with the legs after the pants were done. Maybe I just dont know any better though!
 

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Anders, I'm afraid he has action mans shoulders, the right shoulder should be higher, that's the problem when using precast torso pieces, you can't use the same point on the torso when locating the shoulder position.
 
Anders,

I am not a sculptor but nows alot of anatomy. The right shoulder isn't good.
When you raise your arm at this hight you get an elevation of the upperarm. Therfore the muscle of the forearm and shoulder must extremely come together and you get a great blob of muscle up on the schoulder. Look in the mirror.
So you gonna need alot of putty there.
But as you said, alot of work to do.

I really like this figure.

Marc
 
Thanks guys!

I appreciate your feedback!!

I was aware of the shoulder and is now fixed :) you can see a gap and how its 'drooping' in the pics that is there no more.

Leigh! Good to see you here!!

I think that I should have just added putty to the resin torso from the beginning to build the shoulder area up, I will do this the next time around for sure.

Thanks again guys!
 
Hi Anders,

Seeing the figure from different angles now, wise decesion you stuck to your initial measurments, because the left foot looks and is spot on........and as I said earlier forgive me for pointing out something which may have looked faulty due to photos :( :(

Keep it rolling, it sure is looking goooooood.......

Take care,

Ray ;)
 
Hi Anders!

Nice to see something than from WWII from you. :)
I remember the old Karolin on the crutches youve posted on Armorama a while back.

I agree with other posters about the shoulder, and Im assuming theyre referring to the right shoulder but I think you should have another look on the left shoulder as well?
Also shall he only be using one finger to pull the string, Id say that two if not three fingers would be more apropiate.

I really like the trousers and shoes. Theyre splendid with all the folds and crevices.
I think also the posing with the legs, hip and balance looks very realistic.

Cheers
 
Thanks guys!!

I havent touched this little fella for some time now as I have been busy with another project. However, it is finished now and I can focus on other projects!

The hand isnt finshed, its just there pretty much. He will be using two fingers, one above the nock and one below it.

I will post pics when I have done more to him!
 

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