Altering metal flats

[Graham]

Does anyone have tips on modifying metal flats?

I was having a non serious practice play with this 80mm flat today, off work for a day with serious knee pain so concentration was limited.

It was only when I came to block in the moustache that I realised the painted version I had seen had been changed. As you can see, on the cast I have the moustache runs into the sideburns. On the original painted one, it doesn't.

Is this a simple as carving away the bit in between or, as I suspect, the metal carved away and then re modelled?

If it needs re modelling, what is the best stuff to use as I have never done anything like this before.

The cast (please ignore the painting)


The original

 

[mick3272]

What Can I say. ' Should have gone to Spec Savers'. Is it solid behind and could it be carved out, if stamped??? refer to comment.

Mick
I aim to please but often miss. ( Think I missed here)

 

[peedee]

Hi Graham,
I would just carefully use fine swiss/mousetail files to remove what you want and then a touch of brushed primer.

You will know then if any imperfections need a touch of filler, or if you need to file a little more away.
Paul.

 

[Graham]

Cheers guys, will bite the bullet when I get home (after calling in at Specsavers )

 

[peedee]

Cheers guys, will bite the bullet when I get home (after calling in at Specsavers )

Cost me £70.00 last week !
Mind you if I hadn't sat on 'em.
Mind you, if I was wearing 'em I'd have seen 'em.
But there again 'm as mad as a hatter .

Paul

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Graham, do you have a 'Hand-Power', tool with adjustable speeds? .. like a Dremel.

Mark.

 

[Graham]

Couldn't agree more Paul

I have Mark but I will start by carving it out with a scalpel and look to the drill tool to polish it back up. First job, after making a cup of tea, when I get home from work.

 

[peedee]

Graham, do you have a 'Hand-Power', tool with adjustable speeds? .. like a Dremel.
Mark.

CRIKEY....... Braver man thatn me !

If did that, I'd be scared of endingup with an 80mm shaped smooth blank !

P

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

CRIKEY....... Braver man thatn me !

If did that, I'd be scared of endingup with an 80mm shaped smooth blank !

P

Oh, Ye of little faith. Tis only a 'Dremel'.

.

Mark.

 

[mick3272]

Oh, Ye of little faith. Tis only a 'Dremel'.

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Mark.

You might get away with using that for vasectomies on Squirrels But dont get carried away with ideas above your station

Mick

 

[billyturnip]

Hi Graham,
I would just carefully use fine swiss/mousetail files to remove what you want and then a touch of brushed primer.

You will know then if any imperfections need a touch of filler, or if you need to file a little more away.
Paul.

That's what I would do.

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Or, the more simplistic answer is just to paint what is presented! ... Is this work truly required?

As you said. 'Non-Serious' practice. ... Just paint the bugger!

Mark.

 

[Graham]

Fraid it is mark as the thick moustache is very prominent as per unpainted

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Hmm. Not really, bring down the contrast of this, 'Hairy-Snake', to a more brownish/fair look! This! I feel, would lessen the visual impact of stark black.

Mark.

 

[billyturnip]

Personally I would paint what is there and Mark's suggestion of tone it down with paint is a good one, however if you are determined to remove some of it go with the files option. I can see the power tool idea ending in disaster, however being ham fisted with stuff like that I would think that.

 

[billyturnip]

Now I have had a bit of time to have a proper look (and read your initial post properly) it looks like Dirk Ewert modified his version, would you like me to ask him how he went about it Graham?

 

[Graham]

It was certainly modified but nothing I shouldn't be able to do even if not as well. The tash is quite thick so I would rather have a go than hide it with paint, it would just look odd. Would be interesting to know how and why he did it Roger. I think the why is self explanatory, it will look better.

Stay tuned, the knife is out and then he is taking a stripper bath.

 

[Graham]

Had a very scary but productive evening. Not got it quite to the right shape yet but the bulk of it is off.

That Detol is scary stuf, this had been in for about 45 minutes and the paint, including the primer which had been on for about a week just wiped off, amazing stuff.

No power tools used as yet just a scalpel and thin sanding sticks. Just need to take out the slight flick up on the bottom right corner.

 

[peedee]

Well done mate, now you can add the full beard, apron, the medusa heads above the crossing point of the belts, crossed axes instead of the service stripe, and he's ready to paint as a well 'ard sapeur.


Good luck buddy.
Paul

 

[billyturnip]

Looks good Graham.