Badger airbrush ??

[montythefirst]

Hi my wife has bought me for my birthday the badger renegade krome airbrush, I am not family with badger airbrushes having never used one, and was wondering which was the best nozzle/needle to use with acrylics like vallejo model air and formula p3. the set comes with a 0.21mm and 0.33mm needles.

any suggestions?

 

[kagemusha]

I have the same AB (superb) paired with the Badger 1100 compressor. Either nozzle/needle set will happily spray Vallejo Model Air, as long as you use a little thinner to retard the drying slightly.
Not familiar with 'P3' but, I have also used Golden, Createx, Wicked and Scale 75 acrylics through it with no problems. Also run W&N inks, for flat 2D stuff, again with no issues.
One thing I would highly recommend before you use it, get some Iwata 'Superlube' and strip and lube the Krome. It increases the response and helps prevent build-up of dried paint.
Hope this helps.

Regards

Ron

 

[montythefirst]

hi Ron,

cheers for the info a small test has revealed the defo need for the lube

 

[bagelman1952]

I use the krome with the smaller needle and run Vallejo model paints and Jo Sonja without a problem. I use a thinning mixture suggested on a Miniature Mentor video. It consists of 2 parts Windex (glass cleaner) 1 part Vallejo thinner, 1 part Airbrush cleaner and 8 parts distilled water. This keeps everything flowing smoothly and I rarely get tip dry. All paints dry with a matt finish. I have never used Iwata superlube but the mixture I use seems to act in the same way. Excellent airbrush.

 

[Tecumsea]

Hi Ken, ref above recommendation, how many parts of paint to that mix?

Keith

 

[montythefirst]

what psi are you using

 

[fabrizio1969]

hi i use a badger 100 and is a greath airbrush and sprayng all kind of colour,the nozzle is 0,2 mm

 

[bagelman1952]

The amount of the mixture to paint is not an exact science unfortunately. Obviously with Jo Sonja paint you need more thinner but that varies depending on the color transparency. I put a quantity of thinner in the cup first with an eye dropper and then add paint with a brush and mix to the consistency of milk. I use a small electric make-up type compressor, which is find is perfectly adequate for my needs and I usually run at very low pressure.

 

[Tecumsea]

Thanks Ken, sorry if the reply seemed naive but I intend to give airbrushing a go in the next couple of weeks so I'm looking for as many tips as possible. I was told to use some airbrush thinners in the mix a few days ago so we are heading in the right direction. Thanks again........... Keith

 

[bagelman1952]

Not naive at all Keith. I am no expert myself, only been using the airbrush for a year or so and still learning. I tried several recommended mixes for thinning and this one seems to be the best. I also use it neat for cleaning between colours and at the end of a session and have never had a problem with sticking needles when I come back to use the brush. I sometimes use the mix to thin paint on my palette for brushing as well and that seems to help with flow of some paints.

 

[Tecumsea]

Thanks Ken, my previous attempts have resulted in a back to the brush vow having spent most of my time cleaning the airbrush of drying paint
Definitely going to persevere with it this time.

Keith

 

[kagemusha]

Thought this little update might help you in your search for tips Keith. I used the 'Scale 75' Flesh set for a session on Sunday.
Very easy to work with. Dried perfectly matt using a paint to thinner ratio of 5 to 10 (drops).
I used 'Vallejo' Airbrush Thinner (Code 71.161)
Sprayed at 30 psi (General distance) and 22 psi (Close up working)
Pics give a small idea of how smoothly the Scale 75 performs. Piece is 29 mm x 25 mm in size...with all colours sprayed 'freehand'.

For cleaning between colours and, at session end, I used 'Medea Airbrush Cleaner'.


Hope this helps.

Regards

Ron

 

[Tecumsea]

Hi Ron, thanks for the extra into on pressures etc that really helps,

Best regards........Keith

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

Thanks Ken, sorry if the reply seemed naive but I intend to give airbrushing a go in the next couple of weeks so I'm looking for as many tips as possible. I was told to use some airbrush thinners in the mix a few days ago so we are heading in the right direction. Thanks again........... Keith

Be prepared for a long journey with many flub-ups on the way Keith too total frustration ,best paints I have found for an airbrush are the Tamiya but I am using an Iwata with a fine nozzle it has taken me a year to get it working the way I want , that is just getting the paint thickness right; but worth it in the end .

Keep a spare figure handy to test your mix on ; I know you have one or two

 

[kagemusha]

Thought it might be useful to give an example of the 'Scale 75' acrylics through the airbrush.
Sets used were the Black & White, and the Flesh set.
I have to say that, for me at least, these are way in front of any others I have tried.
Have also been playing with their 'Metal n Alchemy (Steel) set, which are equally as good.
See what you think.


Cheers

Ron

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

Look damned good Ron C

 

[kagemusha]

Many thanks Ron T.
Just to add a twist, I have been playing around and putting oils through the airbrush, results are very encouraging so far.
As yet, I have only used them to 'mist' coat an almost transparent glaze. But am going to see how far I can push them and, what colours are best suited.
Old Holland are by far the easiest to work with so far.

Cheers

Ron

 

[Tecumsea]

I think Old Holland are the best Ron and I wish I had invested more in them and less on W&N. They are full of pigment whereas by comparison the W&N's are full of carrier.

Thanks for the continued posts they are all of interest

Keith

 

[Helm]

That looks a bit nice (in every way ) Ron I bet you're popular spraying oil paint in the house
Steve

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

That looks a bit nice (in every way ) Ron I bet you're popular spraying oil paint in the house
Steve

Steve, If Ron can get away with painting this 'Buxom', number! Spraying with oils, will be a push-over. LOL.

Mark