WIP Battle of Austerlitz 1805 - The Struggle Before Telnice

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Thanks for the compliment:) . We are corrected some inaccuracies on the uniforms. On the other figures for dioramas already in the works. And tomorrow at midnight (Central European Time) we are starting two new threads here. It will be two pieces of Napoleon's generals. This time we will try to SBS, in this case it will be a Top Quality sculpting. Recently, we work only on low cost figures, so we welcome this challenge. So keep your fingers crossed;) .

Dan & Katka
 
Greeting to all. Here are three next figures for this diorama. Senior officer of jaegers, line musketeer a subaltern of Novoingermanland regiment. Figure pose and movement of this pieces designed by Borek. More photos we will posted in the end of week:) .


Dan & Kathy

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Nice work.

To jste zvládli strašně rychle, vždyť jsem vám ty návrhy posílal před několika dny. Spíte vy vůbec:wideyed:?
 
very impression scene

little mistake - russian officers is not wearing the shaco till 1809 - only becorn hat (ln light infantry too)
 
very impression scene

little mistake - russian officers is not wearing the shaco till 1809 - only becorn hat (ln light infantry too)


No, this would not be a mistake. Lower Russian officers in 1805, often wore shako of ordinary infantry decorated according to their own taste. It even seems that these shakos were decorated according to the same pattern, as shown by the findings part of this decoration on the battlefield at Austerlitz. On this figurine shako created according to this finding: decorative cords from the center of the cockade slack and attached on the shako sides on the small tzarist two heads eagle.From this decoration is probably later derived form of of regular officers shako model 1809.
If you know Dan consulting that with an expert on the Russian infantry in the Battle of Austerlitz.


Cheers Borek:)
 
Lower Russian officers in 1805, often wore shako of ordinary infantry decorated according to their own taste

where is information that they "often wore" and espessially "decorated according to their own taste" ?

It even seems that these shakos were decorated according to the same pattern, as shown by the findings part of this decoration on the battlefield at Austerlitz

where i may look at this?

decorative cords from the center of the cockade slack and attached on the shako sides on the small tzarist two heads eagle.
From this decoration is probably later derived form of of regular officers shako model 1809

things, that was ordered for the shaco in 1809, derived from the "decorated according to their own taste" in 1805?

If you know Dan consulting that with an expert on the Russian infantry in the Battle of Austerlitz

no, I dont know :) who is this?
 
where is information that they "often wore" and espessially "decorated according to their own taste" ?



where i may look at this?



things, that was ordered for the shaco in 1809, derived from the "decorated according to their own taste" in 1805?



no, I dont know :) who is this?


Hi Kasian

Sorry, wrong translation, there should be "as far as I know ...:D

Austerlitz 2005 - Collection of lectures and Studies - Russian Army in the Battle of Austerlitz 1805 - Author Karel Klátil

The finding is currently part of the private collection of a collector from Prague, here is a reconstruction of the Grenadier Shako (compared to infantry junior officer shako accompanied by the garnet and plume) (these are non-regulation Shako often used by junior officers/ober oficeri/)

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I'm not an expert, just a quote from the expert text. I do not know more, need to contact Daniel.

Cheers Borek:)
 
sorry i was (may be) some wrong - in this book there is a mention of such non-ordered cap whearing in mid of the 1800 , but it is doubtful that in such caps were in battle orders
http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/3090681/

but here still there is a mistake :D
on the miniature are made both an a chinstrap, and a "chinchain" (whith same function) - must be somethig one
 
very impression scene

little mistake - russian officers is not wearing the shaco till 1809 - only becorn hat (ln light infantry too)

sorry i was (may be) some wrong - in this book there is a mention of such non-ordered cap whearing in mid of the 1800 , but it is doubtful that in such caps were in battle orders
http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/3090681/

but here still there is a mistake :D
on the miniature are made both an a chinstrap, and a "chinchain" (whith same function) - must be somethig one





Hello Kasyan:)
Borek wrote quite correctly . At the battle of Austerlitz definitely some junior officers had these shakos.
I enclose translation of the text on the matter:
Decorated version of the infantry shako vz. 1803 it was extended to lower infantry officers before the start of the campaign in 1805 (to procure it at your own expense). Fitted with feather plume from the regular shako, subject to the decorating tastes of the owner (but it seems that it was a few variations of each). Initially only allowed off duty and on the march - later became practically the only hat junior officers (except for ceremonial). The generals and staff officers persisted until 1807 with the regular hat (bicorn).


For corrections relating to the chin strap thanks a lot(y) . We will fix it.
 
At the battle of Austerlitz definitely some junior officers had these shakos.

I can seem annoying, but where the facts? any memoirs of eyewitnesses Austerlitz battle ?

Decorated version of the infantry shako vz. 1803 it was extended to lower infantry officers before the start of the campaign in 1805

its not OFFICIALLY extended
OK, russian author, in the text of the book that i placed above, (no one better than russian to know about Russian Imperial Army) - is mentioned of use this shaco in 1805 by the officers (not only lower, junior)
but there is no ward about of the battle
like an other army, russian officers had full dress, servise dress, etc
for example, on Austerlitz field russian guard (heading the tzar) was in full parade dress
 

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