Border Reiver instruction request

[CGS military figures]

Hi all,
I am in the process of relaunching the border miniatures pieces I have. I am starting with the Reiver, unfortunately I didn't get full instructions for the pieces I bought and I am struggling matching up parts.
Could I ask if anyone has a set they could photograph and email please, thank you.
I will get to the other figures and most likely be asking again so thanks in advance
Best wishes
Gra
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Ps, I am releasing as originally intended, does anyone think there is play on a slight updated version also, just tweaking and resculpting areas to refine it a little

 

[arj]

Try this S.B.S. by Geoff Charman, which has a photo of all the parts primed:-
https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/border-reiver-bust-from-stormtrooper.87502/
Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Andrew

 

[DEL]

Hi all,
I am in the process of relaunching the border miniatures pieces I have. I am starting with the Reiver,
Gra
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Ps, I am releasing as originally intended, does anyone think there is play on a slight updated version also, just tweaking and resculpting areas to refine it a little

Hi Gra. If you can wait until Monday I'll send you photos of all the parts. Is it the mounted or foot loon?
I can send both.
Keith's original sculpt is spot on for both, maybe a little smooth on the foot loon but perfectly accurate.
The weaponry was pretty generic on both sides of the border although the crossbow was more associated with the English graynes, the Scots preferred a short version of a long bow.
The foot loon is more likely a Scot as he's carrying a perfectly sculpted Jeddart Staff.
I'd leave it in its original form but add a Slew dogge, rather than the Jack Russell terrier Pete produced.
Cheers
Derek

 

[CGS military figures]

Thank you Del, I hope you are well.
Any help would be great and thank you. I have 4 of the mounted masters and wanted to start with the Reiver as its a great working look figure.
I admire Keith's work very much and would never want to change the master so it will be released as intended, I just thought also a modern head tilt etc would be interesting as alternative
Thanks mate, I have a knight next
With best wishes
Gra

 

[Chasseur]

Great to see the masters are still around and will be released again, they are real classics! I did the Reiver years ago (below) and it has always been one of my favorites. One thing I should mention though is that metal fatigue in the original alloy took out the right rear and left front leg right above the hoof out, I had to fix it when my guy eventually collapsed. I would recommend a steel rod further up the leg than what I had originally placed. I also still have Keith's Knight from the Battle of Towton if you would like a copy of the instructions if that is the one you reference above. Sadly the Reiver's are long gone.

 

[DEL]

I'm well Gra and hope you and yours are too.
The photos above from Chasseur pretty much show the placement of all the equipment.
Pete Armstrong included all sorts of bits and pieces to be hung from the saddle including, if I remember right, a goose and a rabbit. In reality a reiver would never carry loose items such as the tankard, these would have been packed in a saddle bag, the purpose being stealth. On a raid silence and speed were critical including the return as there would usually be a hot pursuit. (trod)
What you get with the kit is an accurately equipped figure to which you can add some elements that tell the story.
It might be worth considering casting the head as a separate piece that can be fitted at a variety of angles to a socket on the shoulders.
Keith Durham has a beautifully painted version by Davie Mitchell, it might be wort PM-ing Davie to see if he has any photos. He also did the knight that was based on the Durer woodcut
Cheers
Derek

 

[CGS military figures]

Hi Del and Chasseur, thanks very much for the images and information, a great help. I'm going to be doing him in resin so I am hoping the brass rod won't be needed on the horse. Also thanks Chasseur, I will check what Knights I have as I have 3 of those.
My best wishes to you both and thanks again
Gra

 

[Ray Stout]

Hi Gra, not that I would want to critisize Keith's figures, but, for me, most reivers used the tough sure footed pony, rather than a thoroughbred chaser. I put mine on a modified John Tassell 75mm horse, and it looks fine. Ray

 

[DEL]

When discussing what sort of mount was used there's a tendency for us to visualise it in terms of todays concept of a pony.
In reality the now extinct Galloway Nag was very much a small horse. Averaging at around 14 hands its qualities were varied. On any given raid it could be expected to cover up to 100 miles, herd stolen livestock, 'race' over rough and mossy ground and critically on occasions perform the role of a cavalry horse.
Some of the Nags were taller than the average and these allowed for a more effective use of the border lance.
Keith has depicted one of those and his sculpt is at the upper height limit for a Galloway Nag.
A beautiful version of a mounted and fully equipped reiver and his nag can be found at the Galashiels War Memorial.

 

[housecarl]

Galashiels War Memorial.

 

[Helm]

When discussing what sort of mount was used there's a tendency for us to visualise it in terms of todays concept of a pony.
In reality the now extinct Galloway Nag was very much a small horse. Averaging at around 14 hands its qualities were varied. On any given raid it could be expected to cover up to 100 miles, herd stolen livestock, 'race' over rough and mossy ground and critically on occasions perform the role of a cavalry horse.
Some of the Nags were taller than the average and these allowed for a more effective use of the border lance.
Keith has depicted one of those and his sculpt is at the upper height limit for a Galloway Nag.
A beautiful version of a mounted and fully equipped reiver and his nag can be found at the Galashiels War Memorial.

As ever Del very interesting and valuable insight into the Reivers.
Steve