Bust Scales?
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gordy
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I would reckon mostly (historical miniatures) 1/9th scale (200mm)
bonehead
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Phil,
Yes!!
Um, guess that needs some "splainin', eh? A good many busts these days claim to be 1/9th or 200mm. But each individual sculptor's interpretation of the "scale" can vary pretty widely.
So, yes.
Bonehead
Thanks Mike...considering your Buddha quote, I should expect that from the man..."yes" is only a concept then, eh?
Hey, are you friends with Richard Gere?
Thanks Gordy...I thought so. I just wanted to stay somewhee within the reasonable sizes that are out there. I'm sure I won't get it though, and I'll probably go bigger or smaller...not that it's earth shaking.
They were quite well represented at a show I was at recently and a discussion started up and went some time over if they should be painted like a smaller scale mini. Using the same techniques and all.
One guy even said he paints them outdoors because "natural light has more of an effect on them than smaller scales"....?
I guess he doesn't live in NJ (in November/Dec., anyway).
gordy
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You're welcome Phil,
Someone makes an "academy" head/bust (can't remember who) that might be something to consider also.
Someone makes an "academy" head/bust (can't remember who) that might be something to consider also.
garyjd
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Michael Roberts Ltd. make 1 or 2. They are called Young Bill and Old Bill...I think. ~Gary
darkeye
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good reference..
if you're starting out down the sculpting road then i'd reccommend a couple of books, firstis Portarit Sculpting by Phillipe Faraut and next would be Lifelike Figures in Polymer Clay by Katherine Dewey. both are excellent and contain lots of proportion and anatomy studies and advice. Faraut also has some dvds togo with his book.
Faraut does courses around the U.S .
other than that, measure a friend whose face and proportions ya like and could see as your character. hope some of this might help ya.
all the best --- tim
if you're starting out down the sculpting road then i'd reccommend a couple of books, firstis Portarit Sculpting by Phillipe Faraut and next would be Lifelike Figures in Polymer Clay by Katherine Dewey. both are excellent and contain lots of proportion and anatomy studies and advice. Faraut also has some dvds togo with his book.
Faraut does courses around the U.S .
other than that, measure a friend whose face and proportions ya like and could see as your character. hope some of this might help ya.
all the best --- tim
bonehead
A Fixture
Richard who?
Sorry Phil, didn't mean to go all Zen on you. You asked: "..what is the scale most of them are done in these days?" Answer: 1/9th, 200mm. "Is it all over the place or pretty much constant?"
The answer to the second compound question is: YES, it is a constant scale but interpretation makes that pretty much all over the place.
So, yes is a concept, but it is also the answer, Grasshoppah.
The trick is not knowing the answer, but asking better questions.
Bonehead
Einion
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Perhaps the trick is knowing there are better questionsbonehead said:
Einion
bonehead
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Perhaps the trick is knowing there are better questions
Einion
There ALWAYS are better questions!
The shame is that most of them are seldom or never asked.....
Bonehead
Einion
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Zen is quite alright, bruddah. I was just being dopey. I don't know if you're pulling my leg on the "Richard who?" question...if you're not...the actor Richard Gere...he's a big time Buddhist. Ushered the Dalai Lama around NYC and all.
I was actually just trying to find out is there a scale done more often than not in these busts...I've done a few (actually years ago), but they were somewhat larger than what I'm seeing at the competitions.
I also own two of the very best, a Mongol and a Pawnee, done by some excellent guy from the past, and they are quite a bit smaller than what I'm seeing out there...but easily, just as fine.
So I was wondering, Mastah. (Poor David Caradine)
Thanks for the responses.
barbados_wild
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Its easy to sort out their real scale, how high are their heads? (from chin to top of head)
bonehead
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Barbados,
It is not a big deal to figure out their scale, as I sculpted them!
They are about 1/16th to 1/15th scale. Tiny by bust standards. But then, hardly anybody was sculpting busts back then....
Bonehead
It is not a big deal to figure out their scale, as I sculpted them!
They are about 1/16th to 1/15th scale. Tiny by bust standards. But then, hardly anybody was sculpting busts back then....
Bonehead
Jeff
A Fixture
I would say do not worry about it too much. Unless you want to do a series of busts all in the same scale. I would say just sculpt in a scale you are comfortable in. If the subjects are appealing they will sell. That is if you plane to sell them.
Hi Phil,
Just to chuck in my own two tuppence, I'd say that busts are the one area where scale really doesn't matter too much.
Scale is always relative to the known sizes of REAL objects, IE a known type of musket, a cannon, a cartridge box ........a 15" pizza! (Yum!)
A stand alone piece of just human form can be anything you want.....
.....just don't ever dream of calling it 200mm!?!?!?!
....because what the hell does that mean?
...nothin'!
(the answer of course being a human of 180cm in heght in 1/9th scale = 200mm)
Personally I think that a bust should be a little bigger? Don't you?
Cheers,
Jon.
Just to chuck in my own two tuppence, I'd say that busts are the one area where scale really doesn't matter too much.
Scale is always relative to the known sizes of REAL objects, IE a known type of musket, a cannon, a cartridge box ........a 15" pizza! (Yum!)
A stand alone piece of just human form can be anything you want.....
.....just don't ever dream of calling it 200mm!?!?!?!
....because what the hell does that mean?
...nothin'!
(the answer of course being a human of 180cm in heght in 1/9th scale = 200mm)
Personally I think that a bust should be a little bigger? Don't you?
Cheers,
Jon.
Yes, I prefer busts a little bigger than the next guy, too. I concur.
I used to be able to work smaller, but now I'm comfortable with the ...uh...larger types.
YEEEhah!
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