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Wouldn't surprise me one bit if Bob had that behind the sofa.
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mick3272
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You could look at this.
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By coincidence I'm also looking to gather information for the standard carried by this figure. There are battle honours sculpted on the standard but these have been left plain without any wording.
Geoff
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The Battle Honours awarded to the 93rd Highlanders before the Indian Mutiny were:
Peninsula - awarded 6th June 1815
Toulouse - awarded 9 July 1816
Cape of Good Hope - awarded 1 December 1835
Alma - awarded 16 October 1855
Balaclava - awarded 16 October 1855
Sevastopol - awarded 16 October 1855
Source: Major HG Parken, OBE Shoulder-Belt Plates and Buttons Gale and Polden, Aldershot, 1956, p312
See also Hansard 14 February 1922: confirms Crimean War Battle Honours were awarded in October 1855
I am not sure if the Crimean War Battle Honours had been added to the 93rd's colours by the time of the mutiny. Perhaps someone else might be able to confirm one way or the other.
Chris
The Battle Honours awarded to the 93rd Highlanders before the Indian Mutiny were:
Peninsula - awarded 6th June 1815
Toulouse - awarded 9 July 1816
Cape of Good Hope - awarded 1 December 1835
Alma - awarded 16 October 1855
Balaclava - awarded 16 October 1855
Sevastopol - awarded 16 October 1855
Source: Major HG Parken, OBE Shoulder-Belt Plates and Buttons Gale and Polden, Aldershot, 1956, p312
See also Hansard 14 February 1922: confirms Crimean War Battle Honours were awarded in October 1855
I am not sure if the Crimean War Battle Honours had been added to the 93rd's colours by the time of the mutiny. Perhaps someone else might be able to confirm one way or the other.
Chris
I have my doubts regarding "Peninsula" and "Toulouse".
These are probably as a result of later amalgamations.
I have come across this site:-
http://www.theargylls.co.uk/service93rd.php
which gives an itemised record of where the Regiment was between 1799 and 1882.
It also states when new flags were presented.
Under 1857 it states "On the 22nd of May new colours were presented to the 93rd by H.R.H the Duke of Cambridge."
It seems possible that "Cape of Good Hope" and the three Crimean honours might have been on the flag but, given the snail-paced operations of army higher authorities, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't.
No doubt someone will come up with more definitive information.
Cheers,
Andrew
P.S. Under 1855, 2nd May, the table gives Lucknow under Crimea. I presume a 'typo', since Lucknow is correctly placed in 1857.
These are probably as a result of later amalgamations.
I have come across this site:-
http://www.theargylls.co.uk/service93rd.php
which gives an itemised record of where the Regiment was between 1799 and 1882.
It also states when new flags were presented.
Under 1857 it states "On the 22nd of May new colours were presented to the 93rd by H.R.H the Duke of Cambridge."
It seems possible that "Cape of Good Hope" and the three Crimean honours might have been on the flag but, given the snail-paced operations of army higher authorities, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't.
No doubt someone will come up with more definitive information.
Cheers,
Andrew
P.S. Under 1855, 2nd May, the table gives Lucknow under Crimea. I presume a 'typo', since Lucknow is correctly placed in 1857.
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mick3272
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Greetings.
The Regimental Colour Image I posted above has the Cape of Good Hope Battle Honour shown at the Bottom.
If the Regiment was presented with New Colours In May 1857 I am 100% sure they would have included the Crimean War Battle Honours. Along with the Colours being slightly reduced in size, and the Battle Honours taken off the Queens ( Royal ) Colour as per the 1844 regulations.
I would also say they would have taken their new Colours with them to the Mutiny.
If you could post a Picture of the Colour you intend to paint I feel sure that between us we will be able to get it right.
Just one thing the thread is entitled Sgt he was in fact a Captain during the Mutiny.
Mick
The Regimental Colour Image I posted above has the Cape of Good Hope Battle Honour shown at the Bottom.
If the Regiment was presented with New Colours In May 1857 I am 100% sure they would have included the Crimean War Battle Honours. Along with the Colours being slightly reduced in size, and the Battle Honours taken off the Queens ( Royal ) Colour as per the 1844 regulations.
I would also say they would have taken their new Colours with them to the Mutiny.
If you could post a Picture of the Colour you intend to paint I feel sure that between us we will be able to get it right.
Just one thing the thread is entitled Sgt he was in fact a Captain during the Mutiny.
Mick
davidmitchell
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I painted the box art on this figure ,Could only find one picture of it.
Cheers David
Cheers David
mick3272
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Sorted.
Well done David.
Mick
Well done David.
Mick
Thank you Andrew. Another site gives similar information http://www.93rdhighlanders.com/hist.html
It would seem Parken is incorrect. He lists Peninsula and Toulouse under the 93rd Highlanders prior to the amalgamation - with a seperate list for the 91st which also includes both. A lesson in one can't trust what appear to be credible sources, and that one needs to validate them against others. I note Wikipedia only has Cape of Good Hope, but I thought Parken was probably more accurate.
Apologies for the bum drum
Chris
Thanks Mick.
mick3272
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Hi Badger.
I know that you have logged onto the forum since posting this thread and would have been made aware of the replies made by various members.
I can only assume that your lack of comment and interest since making your initial post means that you no longer require the information requested, the information supplied is not what you wanted or you can't be asked to reply or make comment.
Please . The next time you require assistance or help remind me not to bother or make the effort to reply.
Mick.
Ps I hope the time and effort made by myself and others has helped other members.
Great information here as always .
Colours and the p,acing and timing doing so us a minefield
Mick ..thanks for pointing out about the rank at the time I have changed the header ...
Perhaps badger is just busy with other things if like me he has other projects running around the bench !
Look forward to seeing this progress
Nap
Colours and the p,acing and timing doing so us a minefield
Mick ..thanks for pointing out about the rank at the time I have changed the header ...
Perhaps badger is just busy with other things if like me he has other projects running around the bench !
Look forward to seeing this progress
Nap
mick3272
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Ever the optimist
Mick
Indeed mate ..but a stunning good looker as well ..lol
Hope all is well
Nap
mick3272
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Sangria a little warm but the shorts & flip flops working overtime.
Ice .....and what an image ! ..enjoy
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