Chavant P40 modelling clay
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LCoote
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Reading the description of Chavant on the Trianti site it says it's used by film studios in the US, so I guess that's why John uses it.
Is this stuff similar to Sculpey in that it needs baking to cure it? Does Sculpey come in different hardness like this stuff, other than that would there be any other advantage?
PS that's a great looking piece Rob.
Is this stuff similar to Sculpey in that it needs baking to cure it? Does Sculpey come in different hardness like this stuff, other than that would there be any other advantage?
PS that's a great looking piece Rob.
Hi Leigh
Chavant never hardens!! It's much more similar to Plasticene but much harder from my experience.
Also called Casteline. but not sold in some countries as it contains Sulphur. Chavant is sulphur free.
As to Sculpey hardness, I don't know i'm afraid.
The fact that Chavant doesn't harden makes that aragorn work all the more impressive.
I was at a UK Games Workshop Gamesday a few years back and there was the sculptor of some Forgeworld stuff with his chavant masters there. Along comes a kid and grabs one, completely ruining it!
I've seen the guy using a compressed 'freezing' spray (not sure exactly what it was) to keep the chavant very firm.
Here's a link to a Casteline sculpting forum:
sculptureunderground.
Rob
Chavant never hardens!! It's much more similar to Plasticene but much harder from my experience.
Also called Casteline. but not sold in some countries as it contains Sulphur. Chavant is sulphur free.
As to Sculpey hardness, I don't know i'm afraid.
The fact that Chavant doesn't harden makes that aragorn work all the more impressive.
I was at a UK Games Workshop Gamesday a few years back and there was the sculptor of some Forgeworld stuff with his chavant masters there. Along comes a kid and grabs one, completely ruining it!
I've seen the guy using a compressed 'freezing' spray (not sure exactly what it was) to keep the chavant very firm.
Here's a link to a Casteline sculpting forum:
sculptureunderground.
Rob
Hi again!
info on Casteline vs Chavant (plastiline)
If you go to the online catalog and look under clays, you'll see Chavant and Casteline listed. The product I've got is NSP (non- suplhurated plasteline)
Whole new world!
Rob
info on Casteline vs Chavant (plastiline)
If you go to the online catalog and look under clays, you'll see Chavant and Casteline listed. The product I've got is NSP (non- suplhurated plasteline)
Whole new world!
Rob
LCoote
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Rob, if it never hardens then it must be very stiff to hold it's form, in the case of the Aragorn with the hair and the coat tails. What would happen to the master trying to remove it from the mould, it would be destroyed I suppose ?
A great site that you linked there too, thanks
A great site that you linked there too, thanks
I think the master does get destroyed. Watched the 'making of Gollum statuette' DVD again yesterday although most were Super Sculpey some masters were definately collapsing as they were removed from the moulds.
As to holding such things as the coat tails, there may be some clever armature underneath; metal screen for example. It can certainly hold the hair.
As to holding such things as the coat tails, there may be some clever armature underneath; metal screen for example. It can certainly hold the hair.
LCoote
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Yes, of course that makes sense.
They're incredibly detailed, and the symetry is amazing, the sculpting would be something worth seeing.
gordy
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Great info and finds there Rob, thanks!
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I've never used Chavant, but I do have casteline. It comes in several grades (medium and hard) and does not require the use of an armature to support it. It's so hard that it won't even leave fingerprints in it as you use it. The most common way to use the stuff is to heat up some of it, form it into your basic shape, let it cool and then refine using heated metal tools to carve/cut through it. For smooth, glasslike finishes it can be rubbed with everything from nylon pantyhose to sandpaper.
You CANNOT paint it. It's used entirely to make an original that you will then cast a mold from. One of the nice things about it though is it's very easy to cut apart for casting purposes unlike figures sculpted over wire armatures. However, I don't know how useful it is for the scales we generally work in. Toy studio shops generally use it for their large two-ups where you have figures between 12" and 18" tall. In fact, I believe that Aragorn figure is 18" tall (if it's the NECA one).
The sculptureunderground website that Rob pointed out is full of helpful hints if you're interested in using it (and Claudio who runs it is a great guy).
Francesca
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Another nice thing about casteline is that you can pour it into a mold when heated. So sometimes, figures will be made out of the medium grade (because it's easier to work with), molded, and then the hard grade will be used to make a casting for adding the details and further refinement.
btavis
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Chavant website
From my industrial design days Chavant was the most widely used clay for all manner of prototyping including full sized replicas of car designs. Check out the Galleries on the linked site. Some really great stuff can be done with this material but it is really for creating originals for casting.
From my industrial design days Chavant was the most widely used clay for all manner of prototyping including full sized replicas of car designs. Check out the Galleries on the linked site. Some really great stuff can be done with this material but it is really for creating originals for casting.
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Hej Gunnar
I found a company in Germany, mp artware ( www.mp-artware.de ) that sells Chavant p40 for 9,04 euros /kg netto and it comes in sticks of 2,73 kg which is about 25 euros per stick. If you can't order netto I can get some into our store in Köping. At least then you can buy some locally (more or less). I want to start importing castaline and other modeling clays and supplies into Sweden, anyway.
Also I have about a 1/2 pound of Roma plasticine that I could give you. I think it is fairly similar to the Chavant. I picked it up years ago when I was still in the States. Let me know if you're interested.
Mitch
I found a company in Germany, mp artware ( www.mp-artware.de ) that sells Chavant p40 for 9,04 euros /kg netto and it comes in sticks of 2,73 kg which is about 25 euros per stick. If you can't order netto I can get some into our store in Köping. At least then you can buy some locally (more or less). I want to start importing castaline and other modeling clays and supplies into Sweden, anyway.
Also I have about a 1/2 pound of Roma plasticine that I could give you. I think it is fairly similar to the Chavant. I picked it up years ago when I was still in the States. Let me know if you're interested.
Mitch
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Hi Guys and Gals,
Yes Chavant is a beautiful medium to work with. Much easier to detail than Sculpey and alot less spongy. No it does not harden but it does get harder with cold air, hence the reason that some sculptors use CO2 spray to cool it. Unlike Roma which can separate when heated, Chavant can be heated and poured without any loss of the original material properties. Two totally different animals, Sculpey and Chavant. Both have their own advantages. But if you want ultra-high professional detail and like plasticine type clay...go with the Chavant!
All the best,
Will
Yes Chavant is a beautiful medium to work with. Much easier to detail than Sculpey and alot less spongy. No it does not harden but it does get harder with cold air, hence the reason that some sculptors use CO2 spray to cool it. Unlike Roma which can separate when heated, Chavant can be heated and poured without any loss of the original material properties. Two totally different animals, Sculpey and Chavant. Both have their own advantages. But if you want ultra-high professional detail and like plasticine type clay...go with the Chavant!
All the best,
Will
garyjd
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It's compressed air in a can used for blowing dust out of computers. The "freeze spray" comes from tipping the can can upside down and spraying. WARNING: IF YOU HAPPEN TO ACCIDENTLY SPRAY ANY EXPOSED SKIN YOU WILL GET FROSBITE INSTANTLY. ~Gary
Einion
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Holy threadomancy Batman!
Will, in case you didn't notice this thread is from 2004
Einion
Will, in case you didn't notice this thread is from 2004
Einion
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