Coming soon from "Kaiser´s Army 1914-18"

[Ulrich]

Got the Master from Alan Ball from my next figure some days ago. It is a "Fuß-Artillerist" = Foot-Artilleryman with a "Gewehr 91" and wearing a saxonian jacket



It will be publish March/April next year

 

[martin tabony]

Should he be wearing the "Y" straps? It is my understanding that they were worn by cavalry at this time. Infantry and artillery having a tornister (pack) that strapped directly to the belt. They did begin to be worn by infantry in the late war period.

 

[megroot]

Another great sculpt from Alan.
I see he sculpted the pickelhaube with cover. Is there a change that there will be a choice into the box with a uncoverd pickelhaube.

marc

 

[Ulrich]

Martin: I must have a look. In normal cases you are right, but I have seen some photos from Landsturm- and Landwehrsoldiers wearing very early the "Y" straps". I will have a look on the original photo later. And perhaps I must send it back to Alan.
Marc: Alan had sculpted the figure after an original photo. And because of that fact there were only the covered pickelhaube.

 

[Ulrich]

Martin: I have a look in my books. If he is member of the artillery-train he was wearing the "Y"-Straps. So that could be a solution

 

[martin tabony]

Then isn't there a problem with the helmet? I thought the train used a pickelhaube rather than a kugelhelm? But then the Swedish cuffs would be correct.

Anyway none of this matters. It's a nice figure and if youv'e got the reference it must be correct!

Martin

 

[Ulrich]

Thats the original photo and because I want to have that position


and that without backpack Alan sculpted the straps. Better I had told him "without straps too"

In my reference book "Jürgen Kraus: Die feldgraue Uniformierung des deutschen Heers 1907 - 1918" I found only the passage that all contingents of the Foot-Artillery were wearing the "Kugelhelm".

@ Martin: Do you have other informations?

 

[martin tabony]

The top photo is Field Artillery because of the Swedish cuffs and kugelhelm (Foot Artillery had Brandenburg cuffs) The Train (supply) weren't part of the artillery.

 

[martin tabony]

Just looking at the figure, the easiest fix would be to remove the bayonet and add a spike to the helmet. Then he would look like a dismounted Dragoon!

 

[Ulrich]

It would be easier for me to follow you if I would know your sources

 

[Ulrich]

We are here discussing things on a very high, sometime theoretic level. Until 1916 there exist light ammunition support unit at the field-artillery and foot-artillery which were part of the artillery regiments. After 1916 all support units were separated. Foot-Artillery units of the "Garde" were wearing Swedish cuffs, the other units of the field artillery (you are right) Brandenburg cuffs. And I think the dragons have K98 guns and not the "Gewehr 91"
So please again, can you tell me your sources?

 

[martin tabony]

I will provide a list of sources, do you want me to list them here or message you? Between books magazine articles and web site it will take some time. Some of the sources are also dunkelblue uniforms as the cut didn't change with the colour! By the way I thought the figure was carrying a Karbiner not a Gewerh. The K98a being the cavalry model (with the metal rod under the barrel) and the K98k being the artillery model.

Martin

 

[martin tabony]

I have just looked through "The Kaiser's Army" by Carl Becker. He shows all Garde
-Fuss- Artillerie as wearing Brandenburg and Garde-Feld-Artillerie wearing Swedish

 

[martin tabony]

I hope these are big enough to be useful.

Martin

 

[Ulrich]

I fear we have a problem that Carl Becker painted his plates at the time he was living and I think he will see some of the uniforms in flesh and Dr. Jürgen Kraus, who is conservator at the bavarian army-museum in Ingolstadt for the parts uniforms and flags, had used the things he had found in the armymuseum Ingolstadt and Rastatt and the official uniform regulations from that time. His main research area is the "fieldgrey uniform of the german army during WW1" and I, for myself, think that Carl Becker´s paintings are really good and I will try to get a book with them but I would trust Jürgen Kraus a little bit more

 

[Ulrich]

One question: The plates "Train" and "Artillery" are they out of the book "Die graue Felduniform des Deutsches Heeres" from 1910 (Publisher Moritz Ruhl)?

 

[martin tabony]

Some of the plates were provided to me over the years by friends when I have been searching these very questions! I only wish I had spent more time learning your language when I was based in your country. If you chhose not to believe them that's your choice.


Martin

 

[martin tabony]

Right, I have now looked through every list I can find and you're right there is a guard unit!
Garde-Fußartillerie-Regt.
(Spandau) Garde-Korps

 

[billyturnip]

Ulrich & Martin, I have a couple of those plates, when I have a moment I'll post the sources.

Roger.

 

[billyturnip]

Artillery 2 jpg is from this...

Roger.