Completed Corporal John Shaw (2nd Life Guards 1815)
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Hey Chris, thanks mate. Hope you and family have a great Christmas. Hope to catch up over the Christmas break.
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Thanks les, Hope you and Sharon have a great Christmas
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Hello Martin, thank you for your comments and information. I have read a few different accounts on Shaw at Waterloo and did read about his sword being broken and the use of his helmet as a flail. They research on figure subjects is always interesting and fun and can also be frustrating at the same time with conflicting information ,hence the choice of the sheepskin saddle, appreciate the information on the blue edging on the white sheep skin.I felt myself that the blanket needs to be shortened but was working from an illustration. One of my pieces of information shows a several great illustrations by the late Rick Scollins and article by Philip J. Haythornthwaite in a military illustrated magazine. Those Helmets look sensational that the re-en actors are wearing,it would be wonderful to see the master. Find attached some conflicting pictures.One of the heroes of my regiment. He is said to have gone down surrounded by cuirrasiers. He fought until his sword snapped and then continued using his helmet as a flail. He was found dead the following morning with multiple sword cuts and bullet wounds. He is reputed to have been finaly killed by a drummer boy firing a pistol from a dtch!
The Second Life Guards had 87 killed and 63 wounded. They also lost 153 horses!
John Shaw used to pose as an artists model, so the HCR museum has a nude painting of him.
The three regiments of Household Cavalry had a true campaign dress rather than a simplified full dress, so I don't think they would have used the sheepskin, but it does look good!
The few contemporary illustrations of Waterloo Life Guards are very nieve. So an educated guss is needed. I have a picture of First Life Guards in 1788 which shows black head kit with brass fittings, a brown saddle, a blue shabraque and portmanteau. I have a picture of the 1st LG drum horse in 1816. there are troopers in the background. They have black head kit, white sheepskins and a blue portmanteau. Pictures from the mid 1820s shoe the horses head kit to be exactly the same as is used now. Pictures of RHG also show black head kit.
Bye the way I made the helmet that the re-enactment figures are wearing, so if you'd be interested in seeing the master just say.
Martin
Kind regards,
John
John Belcher
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Thanks Joe,
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Thanks Lars, I am using a old historex head out of there spare head set
ChaosCossack
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Looks awesome!!!!
I have some historex/airfix conversions in the pipe so this has been very helpful.
Dying to see some colour on this piece.
Colin
I have some historex/airfix conversions in the pipe so this has been very helpful.
Dying to see some colour on this piece.
Colin
chippy
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Some real quality work going on there John . Can't wait to see some paint going on as I always like your style of painting .
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martin tabony
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I found some more reference that pretty much agrees with every thing you've done. A realy good contempory picture but it must have been late in 1815 because the honours "Peninsul" and "Waterloo" have been added to the sabretache. I forgot about Chas Stadden's book on The Life Guards that was published by Almark in 1971 (although he does show a red edging to the black sheepskin!)
The word Corporal was used in the Household Cavalry instead of the word Sergeant. Until the rest of the army adopted the rank of corporal in 1878 when the Household Cavalry rank became Corporal of Horse. The badge of rank is three gold stripes with a crown above, I believe this is the badge Corporal Shaw would have worn. We still don't have sergeants.
Also here's that helmet. It's been gathering dust in the loft since 1995. I've added one of my 32nd figures for size (I.G. wolfhound 1900) I can't find the scales or rosettes at the moment. The crest doesn't assemble properly because I had to add bits for the moulding process.
Obviously I had to be careful with the original helmet while I was handling it, so I used the "brass rubbing" method to get the sizes and details. I had to enlarge the helmet because the original would only fit a modern child! That was the only alteration I made though, I stuck to all other measures.
Martin
)The word Corporal was used in the Household Cavalry instead of the word Sergeant. Until the rest of the army adopted the rank of corporal in 1878 when the Household Cavalry rank became Corporal of Horse. The badge of rank is three gold stripes with a crown above, I believe this is the badge Corporal Shaw would have worn. We still don't have sergeants.
Also here's that helmet. It's been gathering dust in the loft since 1995. I've added one of my 32nd figures for size (I.G. wolfhound 1900) I can't find the scales or rosettes at the moment. The crest doesn't assemble properly because I had to add bits for the moulding process.
Obviously I had to be careful with the original helmet while I was handling it, so I used the "brass rubbing" method to get the sizes and details. I had to enlarge the helmet because the original would only fit a modern child! That was the only alteration I made though, I stuck to all other measures.
Martin
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smudger1960
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Stunning work john,very inspiratitional
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Thanks Colin
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Zastrow.cuirassier
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Great work , and superb doc from Martin.
