Disappointing judgment regarding Ebay

[elgreco]

Unfortunately counterfeiters on Ebay will have a field day after this judgment against one of the world's leading manufacturers. If L'Oreal lost this bid, how can small-scale figure manufacturers hope to win their case against Ebay counterfeiters?

"... L’Oreal said one of the main reasons it brought the case was because it is concerned that consumers are being sold counterfeit goods. However, eBay said that last year it hosted 2.7billion listings globally and only 0.15 per cent were identified as potentially counterfeit. It said the ruling, with similar judgments by sellers in France, the U.S., Germany and Belgium, ‘reinforces that eBay is a safe and trusted place to shop’.
L’Oreal had contended that eBay could do more to prevent, or at least minimise, sales of counterfeit and other infringing products on the site. The judge, Mr Justice Arnold, said he was in no doubt that it would be possible for eBay Europe to do more than it currently does, but that did not necessarily mean that it was legally obliged to do so ...."

Full article here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...l-bid-block-sale-bargain-beauty-products.html

Fingers crossed that a reversal of this judgment is obtained in the European courts.

Celine

 

[thegoodsgt]

eBay is in a difficult position regarding any allegation of counterfeit goods. For example, if one of us sees an counterfeit Verlinden figure and we contact eBay, what should they do? Do they ask to see a visual comparison of the two items? If so, how can they tell if something really is counterfeit? Every allegation might come down to a "he said, she said" back-and-forth between counterfeiter and legitimate producer.

I guess the same thing could happen at any figure show. A vendor could be selling counterfeit goods, but you'd have to have definitive proof that they are indeen counterfeit to close him down.

But maybe there are ways to ensure due process for every allegation.

 

[Mike S.]

I stopped using Ebay the minute they instituted the policy FORCING one to pay via Paypal or Credit Card only. I made my payments (with a VERY happy history of satisfaction from the recipients) via Money Order, and prefer it that way.

Ebay has been degenerating for years, but that was the last straw for me.

 

[Wlas]

I stopped using Ebay the minute they instituted the policy FORCING one to pay via Paypal or Credit Card only. I made my payments (with a VERY happy history of satisfaction from the recipients) via Money Order, and prefer it that way.

Ebay has been degenerating for years, but that was the last straw for me.

Mike, that 'forced' payment via PayPal is circumvented everyday. All you do is ask the Seller if he will accept an M.O.. 99 out of 100 times he will say yes.
It's legal tender.
If ebay sends an inquiry to the Seller the Seller says the Buyer simply paid cash and picked it up.
But ebay never checks.

 

[daspanzerman]

I stopped using Ebay the minute they instituted the policy FORCING one to pay via Paypal or Credit Card only. I made my payments (with a VERY happy history of satisfaction from the recipients) via Money Order, and prefer it that way.

Ebay has been degenerating for years, but that was the last straw for me.

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I often sell on ebay and agree, they have a VERY greedy stance especially when it comes to payment! It's very disgusting, they own paypal, thus receive the profit percentages from the sales, I guess the profits from the millions of auctions were not sufficient. As a seller, if asked about payment via email, outside of ebays own email service, I will gladly accept a money order! Most sellers regardless of ebay's warped policy will do this as well. Fortunately I do not rely on ebay for my income, many that have are now in the poorhouse! Having said all of this, I really don't blame you!