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Some, if your old enough may recognize some of the lyrics from Sam Cooke's son Wonderful world in the posting title. My posting is not about music but a speech given by Author/Historian David McCullough. The following was part of McCullough's acceptance speech for being the winner of The 1995 Distinguished Contribution to American Letters award.

It is seldom that anyone ever receives so handsome a tribute as I do tonight, or is offered the opportunity to address so distinguished an audience with such influence as you have on our country. So I wish to speak about something much on my mind.
We, in our time, are raising a new generation of Americans who, to an alarming degree, are historically illiterate.
The situation is serious and sad. And it is quite real, let there be no mistake. It has been coming on for a long time, like a creeping disease, eating away at the national memory. While the clamorous popular culture races on, the American past is slipping away, out of site and out of mind. We are losing our story, forgetting who we are and what it's taken to come this far.
Warning signals, in special studies and reports, have been sounded for years, and most emphatically by the Bradley Report of 1988. Now, we have the blunt conclusions of a new survey by the Education Department: The decided majority, some 60 percent, of the nation's high school seniors haven't even the most basic understanding of American history. The statistical breakdowns on specific examples are appalling.
But I speak also from experience. On a winter morning on the campus of one of our finest colleges, in a lively Ivy League setting with the snow falling outside the window, I sat with a seminar of some twenty-five students, all seniors majoring in history, all honors students-the cream of the crop. "How many of you know who George Marshall was?" I asked. None. Not one.
At a large university in the Midwest, a young woman told me how glad she was to have attended my lecture, because until then, she explained, she had never realized that the original thirteen colonies were all on the eastern seaboard.
Who's to blame? We are.
Everywhere in the country there are grade school and high school teachers teaching history who have had little or no history in their own education. Our school system, the schools we are responsible for, could rightly be charged with educational malpractice.
Can we expect some jolting national alarm to sound? Will there be in these remaining years of the 1990s some sensational event like Sputnik in the 1950s, to shock us into a realization of the true nature of the situation? Probably not.
But something must be done. And we can begin by asking a few fundamental questions.
Do we really care about standards of performance any more?
Are we read to accept the reality that in a government of the people it is not some longed-for leader who will save the day? If we're looking for leadership, the place to look is in the mirror.
Too many teachers have little if any real understanding of what they're teaching, let alone that vitality and passion for the subject that makes a great teacher so effective. If you think back to your own time in school, the courses you liked best and did best in were almost certainly the courses taught by the teachers you liked best. And the teachers you liked best were almost certainly those who were excited about the material and conveyed that excitement to you.
We have to start training teachers to teach history-and grade school teachers especially. We have to begin early with children. The earlier the better. We have to get back to basics. And let's not be quite so bedazzled by the information revolution, by all the glittering promise of information highways.
Information isn't learning. Information isn't education. We have to have better teachers and we have to have better books.

We need better textbooks. We need more and better biographies for beginning readers. Too much of what's written as history for our children is contrived by committee. It's an assembly and it's deadly. It reminds me of the old piano teacher's lament, "I hear you play all the notes, but I hear no music."
So why bother? "That's history," is the expression now. That's done with, junk for the trash heap. Why history?
History shows us how to behave. History teaches, reinforces what we believe in, what we stand for, and what we ought to be willing to stand up for. History is-or should be-the bedrock of patriotism, not the chest-pounding kind of patriotism but the real thing, love of country.
At their core, the lessons of history are largely lessons in appreciation. Everything we have, all our great institutions, hospitals, universities, libraries, this city, our laws, our music, art, poetry, our freedoms, everything is because somebody went before us and did the hard work, provided the creative energy, provided the money, provided the belief. Do we disregard that?
Indifference to history isn't just ignorant, it's rude. It's a form of ingratitude.
I'm convinced that history encourages, as nothing else does, a sense of proportion about life, gives us a sense of the relative scale of our own brief time on earth and how valuable that is.
What history teaches it teaches mainly by example. It inspires courage and tolerance. It encourages a sense of humor. It is an aid to navigation in perilous times. We are living now in an era of momentous change, of huge transitions in all aspects of life-here, nationwide, worldwide-and this creates great pressures and tensions. But history shows that times of change are the times when we are most likely to learn. This nation was founded on change. We should embrace the possibilities in these exciting times and hold to a steady course, because we have a sense of navigation, a sense of what we've been through in times past and who we are.
Think how tough our predecessors were. Think what they had been through. There's no one in this room who hasn't an ancestor who went through some form of hell. Churchill in his great speech in the darkest hours of the Second World War, when he crossed the Atlantic, reminded us, "We haven't journeyed this far because we are made of sugar candy."
Now history isn't just good for you in a civic way. It isn't just something you take to be a better citizen. It does do that, and that in itself would be reason enough to stress its importance. "Any nation that expects to be ignorant and free," Jefferson said, "expects what never was and never will be." And if the gap between the educated and the uneducated in America continues to grow as it is in our time, as fast as or faster than the gap between the rich and the poor, the gap between the educated and the uneducated is going to be of greater consequence and the more serious threat to our way of life. We must not, by any means, misunderstand that.
But, I think, what it really comes down to is that history is an extension of life. It both enlarges and intensifies the experience of being alive. It's like poetry and art. Or music. And it's ours, to enjoy. If we deny our children that enjoyment, that adventure in the larger time among the greater part of the human experience. We're cheating them out of a full life.
There's no secret to making history come alive. Barbara Tuchman said it perfectly: "Tell stories." The pull, the appeal is irresistible, because history is about two of the greatest of all mysteries-time and human nature.
How lucky we are. How lucky we are to enjoy in our work and in our lives, the possibilities, the precision and reach, the glories of the English language. How lucky we are, how very lucky we are, to live in this great country, to be Americans-Americans all.


I guess that says it all. ~Gary
 
well said..........and this is not only true of the US but also here in Australia and many other countries I'm sure.

During my schooling day's we didn't get taught Australian history at all and it was only after my schooling days had been done that I developed a thirst for knowledge of not only our country but any country as I believe a one eyed view of the world is worse than not knowing anything about the world and its past
 
Interesting post.
However, global history is not a de rigeur topic taught in many schools. In fact, most history that is taught to students tend to be nationalistic history, and limited in outlook. Thus each country will focus on its roots, founders, colonial past if any etc and current situation. For global history, we get that either from National Geographic channel or kiddy books on history, if we are interested. We are left to fill in the blanks by ourselves.

The link to history is obvious for some figure modellers not all.
 
Interesting and true.
Here in Holland most of us didn't know anything or are not interested in our own history. much further then the VOC and WOC isn't coming the most of us.
In fact, we are loosing our language into the English...Billboards, T.V., Magazine's everything is gonna be more and more into English.
That's what's wurry me most.
So, we must keep the history alive, and be aware off our own language.

Marc
 
We may be slightly biased here.....

..as we are aware history started well before we were born......
Busso boy nailed it: it is a global thing. Blaster got it too.....

Gary, if this test were duplicated in any nation, much would be the same.

Here on PF (as well as other modelling sites) most participants have a slightly expanded knowledge of history, to greater or lesser degrees.

After all, I know nix about wooden warships history, or the men who sailed them, nor am I really fussed. BUT!!! these were the precursors to the globe opening up, and were the 747s of the day.....

As for the shift to english, particualry amercan english, well, all languages are dynamic and constantly growing....English is one of the few that follows other languages down dark alleys, and nicks interesting pieces of langage small change. Bout time other languages started mugging english!

Related topics of limited teaching include geography (Name the southern most state of the USA??? pause......Hawaii!!) every day stuff like LPs (how many grooves on a LP, 12 inches across, 4 inch label in the middle? Two, a side and b side!)


Besides, when I get around to having kids, I intend there to be an active adult involvement in science, geography, history, what ever else I can work out how to help the kids learn......My kids future history is too important to hand off to underpaid overworked teachers, or leave in front of what ever variation of x-box/ play station.....

Noble sounding, hope I can pull it off....fingers crossed!!!

Besides, History is like following a really interesting glimmer in the stream of recorded time.......more interesting then evening soap operas!!

Rant mode off, breathes, time for dinner!!!

PS Scale modelling is recreating history in your hands!!!
 
"Scale modelling is recreating history in your hands!!!"

Amen, brother. With that, I couldn't agree more.

And I agree that instilling knowledge - in all its' many varieties - in the young is essential to the preservation of some kind of civilization throughout the world. But more important than that, to me, is somehow provoking the need to know - inquisitiveness and curiousity - in the young of all nations. And frankly, I despair of our ability to do this as a species. Yes, there are certainly heartening exceptions. My own local news carried the story of a young girl who has just won a trip to Australia with a marvelous essay about a footbridge that holds a special place in her heart.

Two of my kids and my daughter-in-law are struggling as overworked and underpaid teachers in the public system. All of them try their best, but, as someone else has said earlier - it just isn't realistic for parents to expect teachers to carry all the burden.

All the best,
Dan
 
Couldn't agree more Dan.

As the saying goes "Those who forget their own history, are doomed to repeat it".

If making scale models helps educate people about the futility of war, then in our own small way, we are helping to prevent it.

Nice thread guys.

Cheers
 
Do we really care about standards of performance any more?

In the late 1800's the eighth grade was equivalent to college now. The standards have lowered. That puts "fourth grade education" of years past into a new light, eh?

Yeah. Education in general is a mess.
 
Two of my kids and my daughter-in-law are struggling as overworked and underpaid teachers in the public system. All of them try their best, but, as someone else has said earlier - it just isn't realistic for parents to expect teachers to carry all the burden.

Dan


My niece and husband are teachers also and understand where your relations are coming from. As for parents, it's tough just getting parents to be "parents" let alone "teachers". ~Gary
 
As for parents, it's tough just getting parents to be "parents" let alone "teachers". ~Gary

Too true.....

it just isn't realistic for parents to expect teachers to carry all the burden.

Like people who smoke, drink, eat excessively, then blame the doctor for poor health??!!! Some responsibility for self?? Essentially, I agree.

But more important than that, to me, is somehow provoking the need to know - inquisitiveness and curiousity - in the young of all nations.
Hear hear!!

And frankly, I despair of our ability to do this as a species.
When competing for kids attention and interest against peer pressure, growing up, hormones etc, lotsa work for parents. plus normal adult responsbilites.....

At least here, due to the distracting advantages of the net and technology, a sense of history is brought to life from an otherwise dusty book. Who knows what our collective efforts may do one day.

Until then.........we keep on modelling....
 
It's also being going downhill to youngsters at school here in the U.K. They haven't a clue about Britains history or any other countrys history.Maybe i'm just an old timer ,but it's bloody sad to sit back and watch the decline.
Brian
 
Folks,
Not all scale modellers are history buffs. A significant number of modellers here are into scifi. I also presume that some modellers just like to build models and the only historical bit is what is on the product blurb or what is trendy. This is not to denigrate anyone's taste but that's how it is.
It's probably not a decline in historical interests, more like other issues crowding in.
 

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