Bluesking
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Dutch cyclist WW2
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WPS
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WPS
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Thanks for all of your friendly comments.
To answer Patrick's question, no it was a model made by Roy Schurgers from Roermond. (first posted at the Dutch TWENOT forum)
A very nice piece in 1/35 scale.
But why is he wearing a Lewis-gun cartidge ?
Willem
To answer Patrick's question, no it was a model made by Roy Schurgers from Roermond. (first posted at the Dutch TWENOT forum)
A very nice piece in 1/35 scale.
But why is he wearing a Lewis-gun cartidge ?
Willem
WPS
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So finally an update, but first I want to thank Mr. J. Vreeswijk for the last bits of vital information and excellent pictures of his collection.
I started with a small change on the bicycle. It turned out that I sculpted the wrong saddle.
Next to this I started with the little cartridge bags that are clipped to the belt.
To secure my work I also had to sculpt the right sleeve.
This is needed for aligning the bicycle and figure, it would be a shame that after all this work the bicycle would be dangling in mid-air.
Willem
I started with a small change on the bicycle. It turned out that I sculpted the wrong saddle.
Next to this I started with the little cartridge bags that are clipped to the belt.
To secure my work I also had to sculpt the right sleeve.
This is needed for aligning the bicycle and figure, it would be a shame that after all this work the bicycle would be dangling in mid-air.
Willem
megroot
A Fixture
Looking good Willem.
But i should resculpt the left hand. I find it some unnatural grip. Stretching the elbow a bit so that the wrist is more out of the 90 degree..Try for yourself on your bike how unnatural this feels....and see what you do the hold the bike comformable.
Because i see it in life, i'm more impressed trough this figure then before.
Marc
But i should resculpt the left hand. I find it some unnatural grip. Stretching the elbow a bit so that the wrist is more out of the 90 degree..Try for yourself on your bike how unnatural this feels....and see what you do the hold the bike comformable.
Because i see it in life, i'm more impressed trough this figure then before.
Marc
WPS
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Marc, I've had a good look in a mirror while holding my bicycle in a similar way and noticed that the wrist is in a straight line with the lower part of the arm. I think I'm reasonably correct with this. But I noticed with taking these pictures that the arm could be closer to the body near the shoulder.
This means cutting the arm off and re-sculpting a part of the sleeve. That also means the bike will be in a different position. The hand will be finished when I'm satisfied with the total look of the figure.
But to make everything blend together I will first have to do all the items he'll carry.
To name them all:
1. the 6 cartridge pouches
2. a bread-bag with bottle
3. a field-bag
4. a spade
5. the bayonet
6. the Y-shaped straps holding the belt.
When all these are done I'll reshape parts of the jacket and sleeves to make everything blend together. Possibly not the smartest way to sculpt but with some patience and determination I'll get there.
Willem
This means cutting the arm off and re-sculpting a part of the sleeve. That also means the bike will be in a different position. The hand will be finished when I'm satisfied with the total look of the figure.
But to make everything blend together I will first have to do all the items he'll carry.
To name them all:
1. the 6 cartridge pouches
2. a bread-bag with bottle
3. a field-bag
4. a spade
5. the bayonet
6. the Y-shaped straps holding the belt.
When all these are done I'll reshape parts of the jacket and sleeves to make everything blend together. Possibly not the smartest way to sculpt but with some patience and determination I'll get there.
Willem
megroot
A Fixture
Well Willem,
don't hurry, you got the time on your self to finish this. How longer it gets, the better it become. So far it is awesome. Only i wish that i good do this. But i'm just wrestling with brushes and paint.
Marc
don't hurry, you got the time on your self to finish this. How longer it gets, the better it become. So far it is awesome. Only i wish that i good do this. But i'm just wrestling with brushes and paint.
Marc
Jamie Stokes
A Fixture
Willem
always good to see your work progress.
I am also relieved to hear that you also scrap some part, or modify, to get right. Makes me feel better about how I make the same part several times before I feel happy with it.
Plus, some of your ideas for parts is simple and effective, like the bike chain.
Looking forward to more of this figure progressing.
cheers
always good to see your work progress.
I am also relieved to hear that you also scrap some part, or modify, to get right. Makes me feel better about how I make the same part several times before I feel happy with it.
Plus, some of your ideas for parts is simple and effective, like the bike chain.
Looking forward to more of this figure progressing.
cheers
WPS
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Jamie, thanks for looking in on this one. As you've noticed on my previous build I appriciate the comments. Yes I will be changing and re-sculpting until satisfied. This one is special to me for not a lot is know about these soldiers that fought those dredfull 5 days before the capitulation forced upon us by the bombing of Rotterdam. (and the threat of bombing 11 more cities) For a long period after the war these men were probably ashamed to talk about this and our tribute focussed (logically) on the men freeing us from the Germans. (Canadians, English and Polish forces)
Not a lot of people know about what happened during those five days and the general idea is that the Netherlands gave in without much of a fight.
Just to give you some facts, our forces captured and deported (to English enprisonment)around 1350 falschirmjager and luftlande-truppen. Around the The Hague area alone about 400 airplanes were damaged and 250 of them completely destroyed. This resulted in the fact that Hitler never got his luftlanding capability back to this level during the war. In total it is estimated that in Holland the Germans had a death toll of around 6600.
The reason for bombing Rotterdam was the tought they could capture our goverment and the royal family and ending the war within a few hours but not being able to do so.
Willem
Not a lot of people know about what happened during those five days and the general idea is that the Netherlands gave in without much of a fight.
Just to give you some facts, our forces captured and deported (to English enprisonment)around 1350 falschirmjager and luftlande-truppen. Around the The Hague area alone about 400 airplanes were damaged and 250 of them completely destroyed. This resulted in the fact that Hitler never got his luftlanding capability back to this level during the war. In total it is estimated that in Holland the Germans had a death toll of around 6600.
The reason for bombing Rotterdam was the tought they could capture our goverment and the royal family and ending the war within a few hours but not being able to do so.
Willem
Jamie Stokes
A Fixture
Thanks for the local history lesson, Willem.
I agree, most of history focuses on the 'big events' and skips the 'smaller' stuff.
In reality, History is a flowing stream of events, all connected. It is good to hear about this kind of thing, as it adds to broader view, more balanced then received by watching movies...
cheers
PS, sometime in the future, most get to Europe, share a beer with my European Planeteers
I agree, most of history focuses on the 'big events' and skips the 'smaller' stuff.
In reality, History is a flowing stream of events, all connected. It is good to hear about this kind of thing, as it adds to broader view, more balanced then received by watching movies...
cheers
PS, sometime in the future, most get to Europe, share a beer with my European Planeteers
WPS
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Jamie, I second you on this and reccomend you'll try some of the (more than 2000) Belgian beers.Willem
WPS
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Hi people just a bit of an update and some extra info.
First I want to show you why he's holding the bike like he does (yes also for you Marc)
The next pictures shows me holding my bike in a similar way as the model.
Yes Marc my hand and wrist is in almost a straight line with the lower-arm. My handle-bar is lower than on the service-bike.
Some people on other forums asked why the hand isn't the other way around.
Well the answer is simple, you can not step on your bike holding it in this way.
So now on to the updates.
The Y-shaped belt was created with lead-foil and the flaps of the pockets done in Magic sculpt so that it looks like gravity pulls the belt into the thicker layer of fabric.
I created all of the cartridge-pouches and gave the belts their buckles made out of copper-wire.
I also sculpted some hair underneath the helmet but it hard to see even when viewed from below (but I know it's there)
The chin-strap was next and done with the double sided buckle. By double-looping the end of the strap and tightly rolling it in they got this little roll on the side.
The next steps will be the ridiculous long bayonet (65 cm long incl. the holster) and the spade. Over this I'll sculpt the field-bag and on the right hip the bread-bag.
Don't look at the gun-sling this is temporary and will be replaced by a special one.
See you next week I hope, Willem
First I want to show you why he's holding the bike like he does (yes also for you Marc
)The next pictures shows me holding my bike in a similar way as the model.
Yes Marc my hand and wrist is in almost a straight line with the lower-arm. My handle-bar is lower than on the service-bike.
Some people on other forums asked why the hand isn't the other way around.
Well the answer is simple, you can not step on your bike holding it in this way.
So now on to the updates.
The Y-shaped belt was created with lead-foil and the flaps of the pockets done in Magic sculpt so that it looks like gravity pulls the belt into the thicker layer of fabric.
I created all of the cartridge-pouches and gave the belts their buckles made out of copper-wire.
I also sculpted some hair underneath the helmet but it hard to see even when viewed from below (but I know it's there
)The chin-strap was next and done with the double sided buckle. By double-looping the end of the strap and tightly rolling it in they got this little roll on the side.
The next steps will be the ridiculous long bayonet (65 cm long incl. the holster) and the spade. Over this I'll sculpt the field-bag and on the right hip the bread-bag.
Don't look at the gun-sling this is temporary and will be replaced by a special one.
See you next week I hope, Willem
megroot
A Fixture
Looking good Willem
Well if we go further about the wrist i also tried but it wasn't comfortable at all to hold my bike that way.
And if you step up on the bike you hold it more like on the other picture but the wrist is turned in.(in dutch i can explain better).
But you can keep it this way, it looks exceptable.
Marc
Well if we go further about the wrist i also tried but it wasn't comfortable at all to hold my bike that way.
And if you step up on the bike you hold it more like on the other picture but the wrist is turned in.(in dutch i can explain better).
But you can keep it this way, it looks exceptable
.Marc
Willem,
Great work so far!
Marc is right about the hand that is looks a bit uncomfortable but this is caused by the thumb of the sculpture. It's too low in comparison with the fingers, the thumb and ball of the hand should be above the fingers like on the photo.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Marcel.
Great work so far!
Marc is right about the hand that is looks a bit uncomfortable but this is caused by the thumb of the sculpture. It's too low in comparison with the fingers, the thumb and ball of the hand should be above the fingers like on the photo.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Marcel.
WPS
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Marc and Marcel, I appriciate your input and to be honest I'm not at all pleased with the hand and will resculpt it. It looks to square and the thumb and ball of the hand are not right, also the length and the places of the knuckles are wrong.
I was at a certain point thinking of giving him a totally different grip but then I'll have to reshape more than I want and this built would become to lenghty (if it isn't already...LOL)
Groeten from Willem
I was at a certain point thinking of giving him a totally different grip but then I'll have to reshape more than I want and this built would become to lenghty (if it isn't already...LOL)
Groeten from Willem
megroot
A Fixture
Willem,
Don't be afraid to resculpt the hand. You saw how Bill Horan did it....piece of cake.
Marc
Don't be afraid to resculpt the hand. You saw how Bill Horan did it....piece of cake.
Marc
Jamie Stokes
A Fixture
Willem,
glad to see this sculpt progressing!
Research like you have done is always good to see!
Thanks for sharing
Cheers
glad to see this sculpt progressing!
Research like you have done is always good to see!
Thanks for sharing
Cheers
WPS
Well-Known Member
A little bit extra....
I created the bayonet and spade from polyurethane and lead-foil and placed them on the appropriate places.
The next step will be a little bit of combi-sculpting, the field-bag and bread-bag are next and for ease of painting I want to keep them as loose items.
But to make the end result more natural the Hembrug gun needs to be pushed into the fabric a bit (gravity....)
This means I have to do this sculpt in one go to get everything in line.
Well here are the pic's...
'till next time ..... Willem
I created the bayonet and spade from polyurethane and lead-foil and placed them on the appropriate places.
The next step will be a little bit of combi-sculpting, the field-bag and bread-bag are next and for ease of painting I want to keep them as loose items.
But to make the end result more natural the Hembrug gun needs to be pushed into the fabric a bit (gravity....)
This means I have to do this sculpt in one go to get everything in line.
Well here are the pic's...
'till next time ..... Willem
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