Groundwork question

[simon1969]

Hi
Has anyone tried adding egg to oil paints to represent cracked earth in dried out stream beds etc? i read somewhere that this was possible, as when the paint "omellete" dried, it cracked quite convincingly!? (don't know if it's the whole egg you're supposed to add or just the yolk or white?)
Just thought I'd see if anyone had any experience with this one before I try it!
(wouldn't it start to smell after a while? )
Cheers
Simon

 

[Guy]

good morning Simon ,

I remember an article years ago in the old Campaign magazine about using cracked egg shells glued down and painted over to similate dried, cracked earth but using the egg itself I have not heard that before. I would hesitate because, as yyou say, the smell after while would worsen. I have also used cracked pieces of egg shell to similate a flagstone walkway. Worked well.

Guy

 

[simon1969]

Good morning to you Guy
Are you up at some un-godly hour or should I ignore the time it says on the posts!!
I'm trying to remember where I read about it, I think it might be in an old military modelling mag? I'll try and dig them out of my garage tonight & see if I can find anything.
Good tip about the eggshells btw, hadn't heard of that one!
BTW, when do you expect to have part III of your Groundwork article up? I've found it very useful!
Cheers
Simon

 

[Richard E]

Hi Simon

I seem to remember an article in MM ages ago using just this technique, I think it was a Hospitaller knight by Adrian Bay standing in a dried up river bed, and looked incredibly authentic. The technique (if I remember right) was to mic the goundwork paint with egg white and then paint on, so when it dries it the tempura cracks up. I guess you could get some crackle glaze from the DIY centre for the same effect though.

Richard

 

[Guy]

Hello again Simon,

This is the ungodly hour that I can get stuff done. Both my wife and I are early risers. And it was only 4:45 when I posted .. I will start on the third part next weekend and send it on to gordy. Glad you found it usefull

Guy

 

[simon1969]

I seem to remember an article in MM ages ago using just this technique, I think it was a Hospitaller knight by Adrian Bay standing in a dried up river bed, and looked incredibly authentic.

Hi Richard,
Yeah, that was it I think!
Cheers
Simon

 

[Richard E]

Simon

I just found the article (I have no life.... between contracts at the mo'), all credit goes to Ivan Cocker not Adrian Bay for this. Just use the egg yolk and mix it with the paint, suggest it has to be acrylic or oil. Then let it dry completely (takes a couple of days), and it should crack up and give you the effect you want. Then varnish it to seal it in and stop any mould forming.

I haven't tried this, but if it's good enough for the likes of Matisse and Degas i's good enough for me

Good luck with it.

Richard

 

[Guy]

Thanks Richard,

I appreciate you finding the article and when I read that you would seal it with varnish, it made sence. And like you say, if it's good enough for the pro's, then it's good enough for me too. I will try it and let you all know.

Thanks again,

Guy

 

[simon1969]

Thanks Richard
That saves me having to risk life and limb in the "Garage of Doom"!!
I might be the brave soul that tries this out this weekend then!
Cheers
Simon

Or maybe I'll let Guy do it for us!!!

 

[Richard E]

No problem, like most of us I suspect, I've got a massive hoard of magazines and references it was nice to use it. Now I'm going to throw a spanner in. I used a tempura method to get the silky look on the gold of this flag, but I used a tiny amount. When you try the ground work I guess you have to put loads in, overegg it so to speak

Good luck with it.

 

[Guy]

"Garage of Doom".....hmmm that sounds familiar.....we just moved into a new home about 6 months ago and when I go into the garage my wife tells me to tie a rope to my belt....so in case something caves in on me....she can find me. It's been a hard choice.....clean the garage.....or paint figures.. <_< I guess you know what my decision has been...

Guy

 

[Guy]

Hey Richard,
I love the flag......you did a super job with it.......Is it all freehand.....and if it is....WOW ya did good..

Guy

 

[simon1969]

Originally posted by GuyHerrick@Oct 16 2003, 06:07 AM
"Garage of Doom".....hmmm that sounds familiar.....we just moved into a new home about 6 months ago ....

Yep! you know it!!

 

[simon1969]

Originally posted by GuyHerrick@Oct 16 2003, 06:12 AM
Hey Richard,
I love the flag......you did a super job with it.......Is it all freehand.....and if it is....WOW ya did good..

Guy

Ditto that!!!

Simon

 

[Richard E]

Thanks, yes it was freehand, but painted as you would any other picture by sketching in pencil first and then filling in. This is the other side and I've put a couple of pictures of the whole thing in the gallery. This was my first venture into scratchbuilding apart from the horse which is Verlinden.