Completed Guardsman Sergeant Major 1890

[offo]

Hi Keith, I'm like.
It helped me and it certainly helps to others.
I did more service details, and the package is on the way to the US.
Unfortunately, I do not know the release date.
It is necessary to monitor the website of the company.
Certainly, it is also information here on PF.

Best regards and thank you all for your cooperation
Palo

 

[MCPWilk]

Very useful web site link, thank you.

Mike

 

[martin tabony]

Military Modelling had a whole series on foot guard uniforms about fifteen years ago. I believe I kept them if anyone is interested.

Martin

 

[Nap]

Martin ,

PM sent ref articles

Nap

 

[Funky50]

Mar

Just as a matter of interest the only change to the uniform was in 1902 when the height of the collar was increased. The frase the foot guards use to descibe the perfect skin is "Apple in front and a pear behind".
Septem Juncta In Uno.

Martin

Martin is that correct about the collar being changed in 1902 as I have a picture dated circa 1906 that shows the collar as still rounded and lower ...I only ask as I intend to try and modify one of David Grieves Grenadier Busts to an earlier likeness of My Great Grandfather who was a Grenadier from 1897-1906 and was at the battle of Omdurman and served throughout the Boer War...was hoping I could get away with just changing the collar (Lowering and rounding the corners)and the epaulette cypher for a grenade and adding his medals and Slade Wallace Equipment....Kevin

 

[martin tabony]

You might find this interesting then the Irish Guards, St. Patrick's Day 1908. Notice there is still one tunic with the old collar (second tunic from the corporal's stripes on the right) as well as peaked and peakless forage caps (not actually a "Broderick" as the guards had their own pattern). When a new pattern of uniform is introduced the old patterns are used up first, well this clearly shows at least one old tunic in use six years after the changes.
If your GGF was a Grenadier, then depending on his rank, could you not just keep the high collar?

Martin

 

[Funky50]

You might find this interesting then the Irish Guards, St. Patrick's Day 1908. Notice there is still one tunic with the old collar (second tunic from the corporal's stripes on the right) as well as peaked and peakless forage caps (not actually a "Broderick" as the guards had their own pattern). When a new pattern of uniform is introduced the old patterns are used up first, well this clearly shows at least one old tunic in use six years after the changes.
If your GGF was a Grenadier, then depending on his rank, could you not just keep the high collar?

Martin

Thanks for that Martin..that's definately an option keeping collar high I just wanted to get it right ....I didn't want some old Guardsman taking me to task(my Dad LOL) over an item of dress ....they're known to be a bit fussy about things like that lol...Thanks Again for the info didn't mean to hijack thread so apologies to Offo for that and A Happy New Year to all....Kevin

 

[martin tabony]

Here's another you might like. A little early (he's got the Martini bayonet) but the uniform would only change with the introduction of the peakless forage cap in 1900.

Martin

 

[Funky50]

Here's another you might like. A little early (he's got the Martini bayonet) but the uniform would only change with the introduction of the peakless forage cap in 1900.

Martin

A poor photo of my Great Grandfather...Kevin

 

[martin tabony]

That's a jaunty angle.

Martin

 

[Wings5797]

Great photos chaps.
Great Grandad looks really dapper Kevin. I just love these tinted photos.
That pill box is amazing, defying the laws of gravity.
Thanks for posting lads, these few pictures alone show how complex this GG uniform research is.
Love it, great info supported with Superb pictorial evidence.
Keith

 

[martin tabony]

3rd battalion at the tower in 1906, still with low collar and 1st battalion leaving for South Africa, could easily be your GGF Kevin

 

[martin tabony]

I forgot to post this one for you. Grenadier's camp Sudan 1898 (Omdurman)

Martin

 

[Funky50]

I forgot to post this one for you. Grenadier's camp Sudan 1898 (Omdurman)

Martin

Great Photos Martin and for me the iconic Portrait of the good old British Victorian Soldier in all his Dust and Mud Stained Glory.....to quote and old soldier .....Here's To Em ,wha's like Em ...Gey Few....And All of em long gone...Thanks Again..Kevin

 

[Wings5797]

You cannot beat a decent photo for great research.
Thanks for posting Martin.
All the best,
Keith