Help needed-Native American Indians French Indian Wars

[Cannonball]

Hi everyone, hoping someone may be able to help with Native American tribes allied to the British in the French Indian Wars(Seven Years War) and in particular body art/markings, war paint etc that were specific to these tribes. Just starting on Mitches Military Models two figure set depicting a Highlander and Native American scout and any help re this and native beadwork, clothing etc would be gratefully appreciated.

I’ve searched the internet and there are references to re-enactment groups and artists such as Robert Griffing among others. Seen plenty finished with red faces/red and black or black on its own-are these specific ways for specific tribes?

Neal.

 

[kagemusha]

If possible...try and get a copy of the film 'Last of the Mohicans' (the one with Daniel Day Lewis 1992)...they had a lot of help from the native american society when making it apparently...and there are a lot of useful scenes showing war paint etc.

Ron

 

[Cannonball]

If possible...try and get a copy of the film 'Last of the Mohicans' (the one with Daniel Day Lewis 1992)...they had a lot of help from the native american society when making it apparently...and there are a lot of useful scenes showing war paint etc.

Ron

Thanks Ron. I’ll have a look.

Neal

 

[fogie]

The Iroquois and other woodland 'Indians' bore tattoos - simple lines and swirls. particularly
around the elbows, knees, and ankles which some anthropologists suggest were a kind of
'treatment' for osteoarthritis.

Mike

 

[Cannonball]

The Iroquois and other woodland 'Indians' bore tattoos - simple lines and swirls. particularly
around the elbows, knees, and ankles which some anthropologists suggest were a kind of
'treatment' for osteoarthritis.

Mike

Thanks Mike.

Neal

 

[Mirofsoft]

https://www.warpaths2peacepipes.com/native-american-symbols/

https://fineartamerica.com/art/paintings/american+indian+wars

 

[fogie]

I've had this on file for several years because I like the illustration. It's from a very old book
Not sure if it's any use to you Neal, but I'll post it just in case..........

Mike

 

[arj]

Have a look at Randy Steele's work Neal:-
https://randy-steele.pixels.com/collections/art+prints+of+the+french+and+indian+war
You might find some interesting ideas.

Cheers,
Andrew

 

[Cannonball]

https://www.warpaths2peacepipes.com/native-american-symbols/

https://fineartamerica.com/art/paintings/american+indian+wars

Thanks for the links Mirofsoft. Struggling to get the first one to work but managed to get into the second one.

Neal

 

[Cannonball]

I've had this on file for several years because I like the illustration. It's from a very old book
Not sure if it's any use to you Neal, but I'll post it just in case..........

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Mike

Many thanks Mike. The kit I’m tackling seems to be generally based on the Robert Griffing painting entitled “Allies”. It looks like the native scout has possibly got faded red paint on the upper part of the head and forehead with some black markings but the printing process for my reference in Ospreys Highlanders in the French Indian Wars is a little subdued/distorted so not crisp and clear. Was wondering if the colours denoted which side they were allied to if that makes sense.

Neal

 

[Cannonball]

Have a look at Randy Steele's work Neal:-
https://randy-steele.pixels.com/collections/art+prints+of+the+french+and+indian+war
You might find some interesting ideas.

Cheers,
Andrew

Thanks Andrew. I’ve had a look at his stuff together with Robert Griffing mentioned above. Some great reference material and ideas for future kits.

Neal

 

[DaddyO]

Hi Neal - I remembered a drawing I had in a reference showing a range of face paint patterns, but unfortunately it's specifically about Plains Indians
The text that accompanied it describes the methods of painting and colours used and how grease was sometimes mixed in which meant the colours would last longer than I'd expect and the grease also had a protective effect. Interesting, but probably not specifically helpful to you with this figure. . . . Happy to add a picture tomorrow if needed.

 

[fogie]

..........Was wondering if the colours denoted which side they
were allied to if that makes sense.

Neal

Hmmm.....Good point Neal, that's something I hadn't thought about before. I'm inclined
to think that face/body markings would be personal to the individual - they had spiritual
significance after all. The other thing to remember is that the marks were essentially made
with mud or vegetable extract, and applied with the fingers - we have to simulate that sort
of 'rough and ready' effect. Not exactly easy.

Mike

 

[kagemusha]

The other thing to remember is that the marks were essentially made
with mud or vegetable extract, and applied with the fingers - we have to simulate that sort
of 'rough and ready' effect.

Mike

To simulate the 'roughness' of application I would suggest 'stippling' rather than painting.

Ron

 

[socko47]

Try http://fiwar.wikidot.com/tattoos

https://smarthistory.org/seeing-america-2/death-of-general-wolfe-sa/

https://www.google.com/search?q=french indian wars tattoos&client=safari&hl=en-us&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=NWYy8DzJ2T_jYM%2CAw2sTxSR_BtGyM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRbjoETgjmUvEiXPqRxxIUnbzaH-Q&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjcjabm0LruAhXrFVkFHf1pAGQQ9QF6BAgHEAE#imgrc=NWYy8DzJ2T_jYM

 

[NeilW]

Quite a lot online about tattoos and warpaint: eg here, herehere and here

 

[Nap]

Great replies to the question raised

Good links and references as well

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Nap