Help needed with Norman helmet

[Iguazzu]

Hi mates!

Actually I'm painting my last work for Euro, The battle of Hastings bust from MJ Miniatures. I'd painted the face and now I've a doubt. I think that I did a nice work on the face but the nose protection of the helmet hide all my work...

So my question is, could be historically possible to remove the nose protection?

this is how the face looks actually

Can you help me with this?

 

[Tarracus]

If possible, it may had been very rare, considering that these kind of helmets were based on the old roman ridge helmet (also with nose covers.)
If you take a look to the Bayeux tapestry, all of them are wearing nasal helmets. (I think so but not 100% sure about that)

Certanly the nasal cover makes the owner's face unrecognizable. The funny thing about this fact is that William the conqueror had to lift his helm to show his troops who was he, letting know the troops that the king was still alive. This incident is also reproduced in the tapestry:



Cheers!

 

[brian]

Personnally i wouldn't bother with the nasal guard ,especially with a fantastic face like that.No doubt they'll be experts that will tell you all sorts of things,but nobody was there to disprove it, so there's a possibility that there could have been a helmet without a nasal guard.What about using a sliding nasal guard ,the type used by the Saracin's etc,.
Waiting with baited breath for the experts opinions.
Go for it Alex.
Brian

 

[Helm]

In all honesty nobody can say you are wrong however if you are doing a richer man then its likely he had a nasal but its your call
Steve

 

[Bailey]

I had a similar dilemma with a 54mm figure, although he was a crusader. One option I considered was filing the nose guard down so it would be smaller and block less of the face. In the end I just left it off and that might be the best option here. It's a bust and the face needs to be the focus. I think most judges are at least a little understanding on minor historical inaccuracies. There are so many commercial figures with at least some small historical errors.

Another thought would be to have the nose guard but make it bent up and out of place or just broken. Like the helmet took a hit from a mace or something at some point in the past and never got fixed.

 

[Helm]

Further now I'm at home can post pics. the nasal varies a lot in size and shape so you could trim/shape the original and keep the "classic" Norman look while displaying your great paint job or if you haven't painted it you could go for a leather helmet which would most likely not have the nasal or a smaller one
Steve

 

[brian]

A painted commercial bust or figure has not much.bearing when it comes to judging.
Brian ex judge at Euro!

 

[kevininpdx]

From what I have looked at (osprey and Medieval Warfare Magazine). The Normans were using the nose guards by 1066. I've seen illustrations from when the Normans were in Italy that had knights with no nose guard.