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Robin

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Hi Guys

Well here I am sitting , or rather there I was sitting at my painting desk with a knight to paint and heraldry sprang to mind. How the bloody hell am I going to do that.


so............


I thought why not ask for techniques here, so guys bring it on, lemme know your techniques.

Looking forward in advance

Robin
 
Hi Robin,

There are easy ways and hard ways with better results. Here are the three methods I use;

1. Paint the base coasts (highlighted and shaded). Draw in the outline of the heraldry to make sure it fits and or conforms to the space you need to put it in and then paint it as anything else with highlights and shadows. I usually do this with acrylics as they dry faster.

2. (thanks Phil Kessling) photocopy the heraldry and reduce until you get to the point in size you need. Trace the outline on the beackside of the copy with a pencil and then "rub" it onto the figure (this is more accurate than above but more labor intensive). Paint as above

3. Lastly (this one is from Mario Fuentes). Buy the Nimix brass heraldy. place a very think layer of putty over the area the heraldry will be applied and genlty press the nimix brass (photetched obviously) heraldry onto the putty so it leaves a very faint outline. Paint as normal.

For me the placement, size and contours are the most difficult parts which is why I emply one of the methods above. Onve the placement and size is done the rest is not so difficult.

Hope this helps
Lou
 
As Lou mentioned, I just make my own carbon copy. Size the item on a copier by reducing or enlarging. Then rub a soft pencil on the back. Place it on the figure with low stick paper medical tape. Trace the outline, remove the paper and paint.
This will work for even the most intricate of patterns. I even use it for 54mm Roman shields with all of the lightning bolts, stars etc.
 
I also think you should apply heraldry over a fully-painted base, whether it's a shield or a surcoat or other fabric item. If you want to sketch out the basic shape you can use a pencil but I think a coloured pencil works better so you don't have the potential for shiny graphite lines. If you prefer to do this with paint anything soluble like oils or enamels is better than acrylics as mistakes can be smoothed out or wiped off with a solvent-dampened brush (as long as your basecoats are fully cured of course).

One way of approaching a subject like a lion rampant is to break it down into basic shapes as you might see in introductory drawing or cartooning books. You draw rough ovals for the head, the chest and the paws and then join them together. Mike Blank mentioned a technique like this in an article in Mil Mod a while ago.

When you get around to painting the heraldic motif in full you need to do a bit of research in the style of a given era - most heraldry seen in models is completely fanciful and bears no resemblance to what was likely uses on a working shield for example. Bearing in mind these were essentially disposable only the wealthiest would have spent much money on their decoration so flat colours with no shading were likely to have been the norm until they essentially became parade items only; the very rich would probably have been exceptions to this as conspicuous consumption is nothing new.

With something like a surcoat much the same sort of rule applies, heraldic motifs would commonly have been appliqué work - simple cutouts of fabric stitched in place - you can see this in quite a bit of reenactors' gear, and should be painted accordingly. I have to admit this looks quite ugly to our eyes because we're accustomed to seeing something a lot fancier but that's life. For the wealthy (remembering that noble did not automatically = rich) they might have had embroidered decoration, particularly at later dates, so this could be painted to represent the type of modelling and colour variation this might entail, i.e. as we see most heraldry done, from the Continent in particular.

Now colour. Remember the tinctures of heraldry were intentionally very simple to aid recognition from a distance and if you can you should strive to recreate historically-plausible colours. They didn't have Cadmium Red Light or Phthalo Blue or Cadmium Yellow so don't use them for painting heraldry unless you tone them down first! Also remember that even today it's difficult to match paint colours with dyed fabric and embroidery so imagine the trouble they had back then... therefore don't paint everything to match; this is another common mistake seen in the hobby's depiction of heraldry. As an illustration of this there were only three blue pigments that were likely to have been used for most of the era of heraldry's practical usage, of these only one was a nice vivid blue, real Ultramarine. Since this was made from lapis lazuli imported from Afghanistan and extracted by a tedious and drawn-out process it eventually cost more than gold so you can imagine the echelon of society who could have been able to pay for it on their shield.

Last thing, surface. Painted surfaces were very unlikely to have been matt even had they been painted with a matt paint, it's my belief that shields would have commonly been varnished to protect them from the elements. So in addition to the shield not matching the colour of the surcoat it should have some slight sheen to contrast with the matt finish on fabrics.

Einion
 
A very good post from Einion.
One add'l "opinion" only... Adding some basic highlights and shadows to the detail of the heraldry, for me, adds to the depth and form of the effect. I have seen it overdone, though :)

Also, in case anyone is interested, HM's last three issues have a series of articles from Bruno Schmaeling called Sisters of Mercy. Women gladiators :)thumb: ) that show his approach to free hand gonfalons and heraldry. They are not only beautiful but instructive. IMHO...

Mike Blanks "Black and White" book has some good stuff on heraldry, too :)

Keith
 
Thanks guys food for thought here, I think I will definatlet do the painting over a finished surcoat. Great posts from all.

Thanks again Guys

Robin
 
Thanks Einion,

Interesting historical perspectives. I'll definately keep those in mind-they'll be useful.

Seemingly subtle details like that can go a long way to a great piece and add alot of interest to it. To me it often means the difference between a very good piece and an excellent piece.

That is until some weenie at a show asks why your heraldic details are different colors and you have to explain it! :eek: :lol: ;)
 
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