Hun warrior

[Stanislav]

Boxart for Alive Histoty, Russia;
Sculpted by Dmitry Shevzov(horseman);
Scale 54 mm, white metal.
Here you can buy this model-kit: http://www.soga-miniatures.ru.com/index.php?categoryID=1913

 

[Oda]

Absolutely stunning!!!!

 

[ATTİLA the HUN]

Great SCULPT, thanks for SHARİNG.
I hope see more HUNNİSH warrior(foot soldier please)

 

[Oda]

Attila I have seen the piece from up close.It is even better than the photos.

Oda.

 

[Krest063]

Good paint !
Andrey

 

[Edward]

Great figure!

 

[Bob Orr]

Love the animation but the bow is entirely the wrong shape as it should be a compound recurve bow. Plenty of references on the web. May be pedantic but as a former archery enthusiast this sort of lack of attention to basic detail and research really bugs me! He also has the arrow on the wrong side of the bow. Huns drew with the Asiatic draw using a thumb ring so the arrow should be on the other side of the bow. He should also draw the bow back to his ear. All this info is available on the web and even YouTube has videos of modern day "hun" archers firing from horseback so all the info is available with just a little effort.

Here is a link so you can see what I mean. https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=hun bow pics&qpvt=hun bow pics&qpvt=hun bow pics&qpvt=hun bow pics&FORM=IGRE

Cheers, Bob

 

[Ulrich]

And if I see it correct the bow case is for a compoung recurve bow. Nevertheless I like the figure

 

[jenghiz]

Re Bob's comments on the historical accuracy of the model I believe the point he makes regarding the thumb ring is incorrect.Yes thumb rings were used but that does not determine the side of the bow the arrow is placed on.Mongols and Huns tend to place the arrow as depicted by the model although no doubt some had an individual preference for the other side.

 

[mortier]

Good figure and great painting

Who sculpted the horse?

 

[Bob Orr]

Re Bob's comments on the historical accuracy of the model I believe the point he makes regarding the thumb ring is incorrect.Yes thumb rings were used but that does not determine the side of the bow the arrow is placed on.Mongols and Huns tend to place the arrow as depicted by the model although no doubt some had an individual preference for the other side.

Actually that is not correct. Just try using an English draw with the arrow on the wrong side and see what happens The arrow will fly off erratically. By using a thumb ring the pressure on the string is from the opposite side so you have to put the arrow on the opposite side of the bow. You cannot just pick what side of the bow to use it all depends on the type of draw you are using. If using an English draw then the arrow is on the left of the bow as illustrated and if using a thumb ring it is on the opposite side. Do not let a lot of the videos on You Tube of modern archers firing these bows fool you as most of them are using an English draw. Not saying huns did not use the English draw but unlikely. This is minor point of my gripe though as the shape of the bow is just wrong. Bob

 

[Bob Orr]

Here are links to a couple of videos that show the use of a thumb ring. As you can see the arrow is on the right hand side of the bow as you are holding it. The second one also show the correct draw, back to the ear and clearly illustrates the correct shape of the bow when drawn. Note also the cross section is flat and not round like on the model. All this reference material was found in a two minute Google search. I fail to understand how someone can spend so much time, talent, effort and money producing something that has not had the basic research done.

Bob

 

[Oda]

Correct about the bow,but because I have the piece let me tell you that the bow is a separate piece which can be shaped anyway you like with just a little strategig pressure.The arrow also comes as a separate piece shaped from a miniscule steel rod.The manufacturer provides two right arms,one with the fingers clenched in a characteristic mongolian draw,to be used with the arrow and one with the fingers as they should look after the arrow has just been released.When I say that the bow is a separate piece I mean that it is cast on its own without even the left palm on it.Instead the left hand is provided with a hole where the bow is inserted.So as you see this minor detail can be corrected easily making this remarkable figure historically accurate.And it is a remarkable piece in any aspect,believe me,I have it just before my eyes as I write these lines.

Oda.

 

[Bob Orr]

Well Oda I hear what you are saying but frankly if I am paying $67 for a figure then I do not expect to have to carve it up to correct errors that should and could have been done correctly by the sculptor in the first place with a bit of easy research on the web.

Cheers, Bob

 

[ATTİLA the HUN]

FİRST good sculpted FİGURE ı have seen.

 

[Oda]

You have a point there Bob.Personally I don't mind doing it but I can see how it can affect someone.

Oda.

 

[Reptor]

Good figure and great painting!

 

[kevininpdx]

I agree with the previous comments. A steppe warrior without a composite bow just ain't right.

 

[Ferris]

Well Oda I hear what you are saying but frankly if I am paying $67 for a figure then I do not expect to have to carve it up to correct errors that should and could have been done correctly by the sculptor in the first place with a bit of easy research on the web.

Cheers, Bob

Although I see your point and you are of course free to decide why to buy or not, but I think we should give sculptors some leeway on issues as this. Unless one sculpts one subject exclusively, there is just too much to know. We can't expect sculptors to find out about all details of a sculpt (at least not all the time).

The thing is, internet is a useful source, but it still requires specialist skills to recognise which info is accurate, and which is not. You are clearly a specialist on archery and this allowed you to identify the correct videos from the incorrect ones. There is a lot of incorrect info on the web that can mislead one (You even mentioned in your post that many YouTube videos can fool one).

One thing I like about the web is forums, because a painter or sculptor could ask for expertise in a targeted way. I'm sure, had he asked, your input would have made this figure perfect. Then again, even here nothing is certain, as even experts sometimes disagree.

Anyway, please don't get me wrong, this is not to diss you; just felt this rather nice release is getting a bit too much flak for something that seems to be rather easily fixable. Perhaps, to help doing so, could you maybe post a picture of the right type of bow? Some dimensions perhaps? That would make this thread a useful reference for anyone wanting to make the piece historically accurate.

Cheers,
Adrian

 

[Bob Orr]

Here is a picture of what the bow should look like Main limbs are oval in section but look at how the ends of the bow change shape and how it is strung. I have also included a picture of the bow at full draw so you see how it looks when drawn. If making one for this figure you can use the bow case as a pattern. The bow would fit into the case halfway i.e. one limb of the bow from tip to handle would fit in the bow case. Note also the draw back to the ear. Cheers, Bob