I purchased a top flight kit from pegaso. 80 bucks. Beautiful and jewel like hyper detail but my question is this. Is it too difficult to put a hole and post to assemble things? with all the micro details why cant the sculptor give us a break and cast modular pieces as one piece instead of an impossible weld like the spear point on the standard of this Vexillifer http://www.pegasomodels.it/productdetails_en.asp?id=836# Viktor Konnov dude !!!! post and hole instead of bump and pit. ok i'm finished my lil acting out.
I'm just curious, I'm not complaining
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Jim Patrick
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Beautiful looking figure Norm. Hope you enjoy painting this guy.
I hear what you are saying reference the spear. Sometimes, while it make make things more tedious on the modeler, parts need to be seperated into sub assemblies in order to get the level of detail we expect from manufactures these days. Why in this case I really don't know. Sometimes the sculpter wants this done. Other times the manufacturer requests this to be done. Then there's the whole casting buisness that gets thrown in there. I can understand this being done for resin but this figure is cast in white metal.
To be quite honest? I don't know why this was done but here are some possible solutions to get you going.
1- Drill smaller holes that go both into the shaft and spear point. Then insert a smaller pin. Something along the lines of a paper clip or even smaller. This doesn't have to be sturdy wire to support a lot of weight. Just sturdy enough to support the joint between the two.
2- Replace the shaft with a STEEL wire (this doesn't bend anywhere near as easily) and drill out the inside of the spear point. This is sometimes more preferred but cutting steel of that diameter is not an easy task.
In either case, I hope you get it solved and start painting this soon
Jim Patrick
I hear what you are saying reference the spear. Sometimes, while it make make things more tedious on the modeler, parts need to be seperated into sub assemblies in order to get the level of detail we expect from manufactures these days. Why in this case I really don't know. Sometimes the sculpter wants this done. Other times the manufacturer requests this to be done. Then there's the whole casting buisness that gets thrown in there. I can understand this being done for resin but this figure is cast in white metal.
To be quite honest? I don't know why this was done but here are some possible solutions to get you going.
1- Drill smaller holes that go both into the shaft and spear point. Then insert a smaller pin. Something along the lines of a paper clip or even smaller. This doesn't have to be sturdy wire to support a lot of weight. Just sturdy enough to support the joint between the two.
2- Replace the shaft with a STEEL wire (this doesn't bend anywhere near as easily) and drill out the inside of the spear point. This is sometimes more preferred but cutting steel of that diameter is not an easy task.
In either case, I hope you get it solved and start painting this soon
Jim Patrick
Here's how I do it Norm, but it's a hell of a lot easier with resin. I drill 1 side. Then put a little piece of blutack on the other, put a slight dusting on to the blutack. Press them together, then you'll have a "nipple". Drill that, and the holes should line up.
I hope, I explained that clearly enough.
Carl.
I hope, I explained that clearly enough.
Carl.
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You could drill the spear head with a very fine hole and insert a fine pin, preferably steel. Then replace the spearshaft with appropriate diameter brass tubing which will accept the pin from the spear head. That way saves drilling two holes to line up and tubing is easier to cut than equivalent diameter rod.
Hope that makes sense & helps. Other ways may work better for you.
As Carl says it's much easier with resin.
Geoff
Hope that makes sense & helps. Other ways may work better for you.
As Carl says it's much easier with resin.
Geoff
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Hi Norm
your points well made and indeed in many instances better 'locators' could be cast in, but in the meantime......
What I tend to do now is to file off any locators and dot glue for example an arm to the torso and then drill right through, run pin through and fill and file the small hole.
Not ideal for every figure but often saves a lot of grief, particularly good for fixing shields gripped behind a boss.
Cheers
Derek
your points well made and indeed in many instances better 'locators' could be cast in, but in the meantime......
What I tend to do now is to file off any locators and dot glue for example an arm to the torso and then drill right through, run pin through and fill and file the small hole.
Not ideal for every figure but often saves a lot of grief, particularly good for fixing shields gripped behind a boss.
Cheers
Derek
ahhhh all very helpful . now i need a 1 mm drill bit. riogrande jewelry supply. drilling through and filling the hole on bigger parts is super. i'm wondering if the sculptors are thinking lets give them a bit of a challenge to test their engineering skills. lol brass tube and a steel wire like the model railroad stuff. while im at it let me ask anyone ever give a bronze finish to a piece like an archeological verdigris? just wondering.
