Info and "how to" about a detail on Napoleonic horse gear

[Aveleira]

Hi,

I've been thinking about doing a transformation on a figure, but I don't know how to do
a leather decoration on Napoleonic horse. And didn't find many (=none) close info about this.

In this pic you can see what I'm talking about: those leather things dropping of the horse gear.

Any help is more than welcome! Info about it, how to do it in order to put them in a figure.

Regards
Pedro

 

[Helm]

Fuse wire braided together maybe ? or possibly fine picture wire depending on scale

Steve

 

[Aveleira]

Thank You helm

 

[Aveleira]

Anymore documentation on this "things"??

 

[Don]

Pedro if you can find lead wire, the kind used by engineers, it can be braided like normal electrical wire (fuse wire) but you can also flatten it while still keeping the braid or twists you made. This could give you a design which can be braided at each end and twisted or braided and flattened in the middle . Very easy to use but perhaps not so easy to find unless you have an engineering shop near you.

Don

 

[Aveleira]

Thank You Don appreciate it

 

[bagelman1952]

With reference to Don's suggestion I think I remember doing something like this years ago using silver solder which is soft and maleable and can be easily flattened after braiding.

 

[Barry King]

Pedro,

Those "things" were used to swat away flies from the horse. Better than nothing, I guess, but who knows how effective they were for certain!
Rousselot plates show the tack in detail (particularly the plate dedicated to Hussar officers) which ought to be able to help you. I know Historex makes the parts in question, but they are a little thick and clunky. To scratchbuild, the portion that rests against the horse could be easily done with rolled out Duro separated by strategically placed cuts by your X acto knife. The portion that hangs down would be best done with fine wire, inserted into a hole(s) drilled into the side of the horse, hidden by the top portion.
Try to break it down into sub components, and then model each one in turn. No really an easy job, but also, it's nowhere near as daunting as it may appear at first glance.
Good luck!
Barry

 

[Richie]

Hi Pedro,
What scale will you be converting/working in? I suppose this will largely determine what materials and gauge of materials you will use. I agree silver solder wire may be a good option to make the rope braid as you can get it in 0.4mm, 0.5mm, 0.6mm, 0.7mm, 0.8mm, 1.00mm & 1.2mm diameter. The diameter depends on the source. Picture wire and jewellery braid tends to have too much memory and is quite springy. Fuse wire would also be an option but again a lot stiffer when compared to solder wire.
The only downside to solder wire is the mechanical strength if you are making twisted pairs to simulate the braid go careful as it can easily snap.
Here's an example
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5m-SOLDER...Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item19bd635960
cheers
Richie

 

[Aveleira]

Thank You All!! You've been very helpful! Barry, nice answer, I didn't have any idea what was the purpose of these.
The scale is 75mm, I believe that it would be easy to find anything that goes right with this scale... I have some spares, I will look
into it

Regards
Pedro

 

[Aveleira]

I've found a plate with the leather braids. It really helps to see closely this.

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Pedro! is it the straps or decorative twist (s), you are seeking ?.. for straps .. Andrea do these!, @ 54/90 mm .. .. for the twist some, Wine/Cava Bottles have a pre-twisted thread around them ,.. such as some, Rioja wines etc. which are very fine !

Or you could look on E-Bay, and search for 'Fine twisted rope chain', eg. or Braid! .. @ 0.3mm



Regards,

Mark

 

[Aveleira]

It's de decorative twists, in 75mm scale...
Nice idea that of the wine bottles
Thank You.

Reagrds
Pedro

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Just updated my ideas ... see above! , for a few Euro! ... its worth a look into!

Mark

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Last one! ... also look at 'fly-fishing',.. braids!..

Mark

 

[Aveleira]

Lot's of possibilities!! Thank You

Regards
Pedro

 

[Don]

Last one! ... also look at 'fly-fishing',.. braids!..

Mark

Mark fly fishing braid doesnt flatten very easily

Don

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Mark fly fishing braid doesnt flatten very easily

Don

Why does it need to be flattened!.. ?

Mark

 

[Sturm Grenadier]

Hello Pedro, These photos show some of the placement locations for the braids, or frills as they are sometimes called. Although these are shorter, and not the wound ones you are looking for, thought they may help a little. The circles on the bridles and harness are known as cowrie shells. The braids and shells seem to have only been on officers saddlery. Regards, SG

 

[Mirofsoft]

Do you means that flies are actracted only by... officers !