Its quiz time ....anyone identify this bust ?

[Wings5797]

They both look really good Ian, Especially the Coldstreamer.
I hope that you have put some paint on the Black Watch bust.....You are showing great promise mate.
Please keep me updated.
Cheers,
Keith

 

[Wellington1965]

They both look really good Ian, Especially the Coldstreamer.
I hope that you have put some paint on the Black Watch bust.....You are showing great promise mate.
Please keep me updated.
Cheers,
Keith

Yep I sprayed his basic flesh tone last night, fifrst time spraying acrylics the other two models were done by brush!

 

[PhilinYuma]

Hi Kevin and Ian,
This is a super figure that I would love to have.......if you find any Kevin.
I would agree that the badge on the cross belt looks like a Black Watch. My only doubt, and it may be just a sculpting error, is that there would normally have a Victoria Crown on the uppermost point of the star. Without the crown it could be a Royal Scots Officer but I am not sure that the bonnet would be correct for this regiment in the Crimea. I think that during this campaign they were known as 1st regiment of foot and would have most likely worn the 'Albert' shako.
For me, add a crown and call it Black Watch.
Cheers,
Keith

Hi,Keith:
I agree with you that this is a Black watch badge. So far as I can discover, though, this regiment differed from all those that had an eight-point star surmounted by a crown in that the crown is immediately above the motto on the oval, but immediately below the apex of the topmost point of the star, which as you know, is actually a four-point star with the four intermediate rays replaced by the St Andrew's saltire. I have some pix of officers' belt plates with this design in the MAA Black Watch volume, p.7, and Wilkinson-Latham's Scottish Military Uniforms, p.52, though both of these, while C19th, postdate the Crimea, and Crimean Memories, sadly, does not have a belt plate from this reguiment. If there was indeed such a Crimean belt plate badge as you describe, and you have a picture of it, I would be very interested to see it.
Cheers,
Phil

 

[Wellington1965]

I have posted the only pictures I have taken!

 

[Wings5797]

Hi Phil,
Interesting response and you may be correct in saying that it is possible that there was no 42nd Foot belt plate in the Crimea. Many paintings, photographs and of course millitary figures were made after the war of 1854. The best evidence of this are the photographs of Roger Fenton when you look at those taken in the Crimea and back in the UK. The latter show soldiers in new pattern tunics with the Balaklava Medals and bars being worn. These images are far more interesting to the artist and general public than 'the real thing'. I think that for Ians figure is erring on the side of a post war piece. Only Moz, the sculptor will know this. With this in mind my reply to Nap's question and judging from the belt plate showing the 'back star' helped us conclude that it was the 42nd Regiment of Foot (minus the crown). Here is a link that shows a Victorian but post war plate. Similar to the examples that you and I refer to.

http://www.buywyze.com/viewphoto.php?shoph=1017707&phqu=0

For the real view of the officer in the Crimea Roger Fenton took a splendid portrait of Captain Robert Campbell Cunningham of the 42nd (Royal Highland) Regiment of Foot. Cunningham completed his service in the Crimea but sadly died in Malta on his way home.
Whilst this photograph shows the cross belt it unfortunately is not too clear on the presents of a plate or not. 'Aint that always the way in this hobby.
This is probably no use to you at all but it's good to talk to you Phil.
Cheers,
Keith

 

[Ventress]

I got one off eBay years ago- great figure.

 

[Wings5797]

I got one off eBay years ago- great figure.

Lucky fellow Rob......I'v been trying everywhere.
Cheers,
Keith

 

[Ventress]

My effort.

 

[Wings5797]

Nice one Rob, I like it.
Cheers,
Keith

 

[bagelman1952]

Nice job

 

[Ventress]

Did a rebuild on the hackle, thought it should be a bit more substantial.

 

[Wellington1965]

My effort.

Very good, did you use oils on the face?

 

[Ventress]

Acrylics.