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Hi there Andrey
Very nice pairing ......not so sure about the "friendly hug" though ...lol
Both work really well together , great scale for this sort of thing as well .....like the faces on both and weapons
Thanks for sharing
Nap
Very nice pairing ......not so sure about the "friendly hug" though ...lol
Both work really well together , great scale for this sort of thing as well .....like the faces on both and weapons
Thanks for sharing
Nap
NeilW
A Fixture
Nice dynamic duo which will paint up marvelously 
... though I'm not sure what's going on with the nasal on the axe wielder's helmet? (and shouldn't he be doing a low stab at the other guy's groin with his ballock knife
)
... though I'm not sure what's going on with the nasal on the axe wielder's helmet? (and shouldn't he be doing a low stab at the other guy's groin with his ballock knife
)
Romariogendalf
A Fixture
Nice
Redcap
PlanetFigure Supporter
Nice dynamic duo which will paint up marvelously
... though I'm not sure what's going on with the nasal on the axe wielder's helmet? (and shouldn't he be doing a low stab at the other guy's groin with his ballock knife
Superb figures but I had the same thought about that axeman's nasal guard too as it seems to serve no functional purpose 'as is'. Perhaps it's based on historical accuracy (?) as I can't imagine it is an artistic creation and if it came with an optional head, I would probably buy this piece.
Redcap
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Hi Steve and hope you are keeping well mate. A side profile shot would help as it is difficult to gauge the figure's depiction of this helmet looking at the print you have provided head on.
Cheers mate
Gary
Cheers mate
Gary
That's the only pic I have to hand mate, I know I have seen a side profile, but damned if I know where. It's a logical idea to protect the face somewhat given the open nature of the kettle helm, but certainly doesn't appear to have been popular. I'm good mate, hope you're the same.
Steve
NeilW
A Fixture
Thanks for that Steve
I'd be happy to accept the fig with such a kettle-hat but that's not what's depicted.
The model clearly has a pretty-well straight brim with the nasal projecting at quite a flat angle. Even allowing for his head being tilted upwards it seems strange as it would barely protect his face from a horizontal or upwards diagonal stroke (zone of attack in red below) and a vertical one would exert so much leverage on the nasal that it would surely dislodge the helmet.
Here are shots as is and corrected for his tilted head plus with the helmet brim horizontal (as sources show they were worn), where it then starts to make more sense:
So, I think that, at best, the helmet is raked too far back on his head and, at worst, that the nasal just doesn't make any sense.
To me the remedy would be to bend it downwards so it's more vertical or remove it entirely (my preferred option).
You can't prove a negative, but a trawl through my reference works and go-to site for contemporary illustrations reveals 531 manuscript illustrations, from all round Europe, none of which show anything quite like this version.
The nearest (plus a modern repro) are:
(1410 Swiss; 1380 Austria; 1370s Italy; 1385 Germany; 1400s Italy; 1360 Germany; modern repro)
Note that most combine a short nasal with a deeper brim and the eye notches as per Steve's illustration. Indeed, it's clear that the nasal is formed by the eye notch cut outs rather than as a separate appendage. The next to last shows a more commonly illustrated style with a sharp downward front peak.
As said, you can't prove a negative, but, until contemporary show otherwise, the helmet as modelled seems unlikely (but happy to be proven wrong).
Nevertheless, it's a great piece/combo and easily remedied (if you want to).
Neil
