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Edorta

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Marshall Auguerau and ADC bundle
Pegaso Models 54mm.
WEIGHT 1200 g DIMENSIONS 54m
MATERIAL Resin and Metal SCULPTURE Richard Galicek
PAINTING Danilo Cartacci

https://www.pegasoworld.com/product/marshall-auguerau-and-adc-bundle/

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Superb figures, no question, but 170.80 euros, (and at a price reduced by 20.00 euros at that) for two 54mm figures?
I'm not denying the work put into these figures but that price, plus current postal charges, just prices them out of the market for me. I don't know why Pegaso include these bases, which nobody I've ever spoken to has said they needed. I have in the past bought nearly all Pegaso's Napoleonic and Samurai figures, and even some ancient world ones, so I have no axe to grind here; I just think that omitting the bases, and moving to full resin production could reduce prices and ensure more sales.
Pegaso are still producing top quality figures but they are becoming a company that will soon only be appealing only to an elite clientele with limitless pockets- or am I wrong?

David
 
Lovely figures but I just wish they had been without the capes as I would have bought them otherwise. Having capes on Napoleonic figures seems to defeat the object of appreciating and painting the splendour and opulence of the uniforms worn by senior officers and personalities during this period.

Doubtless others may disagree but that's just me.

Also, +1 to what David says about omitting the bases and changing the medium to resin for everything (other than weapons) to allow sharper details and lower weight for shipping charges too)

Gary
 
I started this hobby a little over a decade ago and it was expensive back then. This is definitely a luxury but I don’t think anyone can deny this release is as top shelf as it gets. Something like this set would take me months to finish so I think it’s a bargain for what it is. I’m firmly on the lower end of middle class for my region and I can still afford it. I also have a child with lotsa cash spent there. My other hobby is reading/collecting comics and graphic novels. That industry is suffering from a similar effect. High cost to produce the art coupled with a shrinking audience. With the free shipping schemes Pegaso has I think this is well worth it.

Also does anyone know anything about the sculptor Richard Galicek? He is a serious master. Where is he from?
 
Lovely figures but I just wish they had been without the capes as I would have bought them otherwise. Having capes on Napoleonic figures seems to defeat the object of appreciating and painting the splendour and opulence of the uniforms worn by senior officers and personalities during this period. Gary

I don't mind the capes but it does annoy me that Pegaso's capes always seem to be being blown by gale force winds! This makes posing two or three figures together difficult. I know that's not going to be everyone's concern but cloaks and capes hanging limp would also be less of a chore to paint. Just an opinion.

David
 
I started this hobby a little over a decade ago and it was expensive back then. This is definitely a luxury but I don’t think anyone can deny this release is as top shelf as it gets. Something like this set would take me months to finish so I think it’s a bargain for what it is. I’m firmly on the lower end of middle class for my region and I can still afford it. I also have a child with lotsa cash spent there. My other hobby is reading/collecting comics and graphic novels. That industry is suffering from a similar effect. High cost to produce the art coupled with a shrinking audience. With the free shipping schemes Pegaso has I think this is well worth it.

Also does anyone know anything about the sculptor Richard Galicek? He is a serious master. Where is he from?

I don't know anything about Richard Galicek except that he can certainly sculpt.
I might have sounded like a Pegaso hater before - that's not the case and I wouldn't suggest anyone should be discouraged from buying something they feel they can afford.
I've spoken to a lot of modelers at shows who have also expressed the opinion that Pegaso's prices were becoming prohibitive for them. 170.00 euros might not be too high for such quality j(and I admit I was not doing the convertion calculation) but these days you can get a lot of high quality resin from other companies for the same cost. That is going to influence what I buy. The quality on offer here is worth a high rang price tag; I just feel Pegaso are going the lower production run at high cost route and that is going to limit their market.
By the way, I'm with you on Graphic novels and If you think models are expensive, try ordering a $125.00 Omnibus and paying the U.S. to U.K. shipping charge!

David
 
Historical note:

It is absolutely no coincidence that the figure of Marbot bears the eagle of the 14th Régiment d'infenterie de ligne!

Augereau advanced with 9,000 men near Eyllau in a heavy snowstorm...



... but his troops lost their orientation and slowly turned to the left towards the Russian center as they advanced. They marched directly in front of the muzzle of 70 Russian cannons that shot his two divisions together.

The survivors tried to regroup, but were attacked by the Russian reserve under Dochturow and pushed back as far as Eylau...:



Only the 14th line regiment, - those soldiers wore white uniforms that time...



... with 2,000 men held out and subsequently threatened to be encircled by the advancing Russian reserves. Augereau sent one reporter after the other to give the regiment the order to retreat, but none of them reached the force.

It was only Captain Marbot who came to the regiment, whose position could no longer be maintained after heavy losses and under constant attacks by opposing infantry and cavalry.

He later reported how the soldiers handed him the regimental standard and told him:

“Return to the emperor and say goodbye to the 14th regiment of the line, which has faithfully carried out his orders, and bring him the eagle that he has entrusted to us, but which we can no longer protect, it would be too painful to die and to see him fall into the hands of the enemy. "





So much for the story of the eagle ...

It is said that after seeing the blood and flesh spattered white uniforms of his soldiers, Napoleon became so sick of vomiting that the attempt was ended with white uniforms and immediately returned to blue.


Cheers
 
Beautiful pieces and presentation no doubt about that and both talented sculptors and painters ....I agree with comments ref price , be nice to have versions aimed at all to consider buying

Would love to see you paint this Edorta

Was wondering about the eagle but Martins great references tells all

Thanks for sharing

Nap
 
Not quite.
Having been inspired by this thread to re-read Marbot's account I am left with a few questions.

French regiments did not always carry the flag into battle, as the eagle itself was considered the symbolic heart of the regiment. I think this could be the case at Eylau considering the adverse weather conditions. What convinces me of this is that Marbot never mentions it at all, despite giving other specific details on a number of occasions.
He says that the major of the 14th "handed me his eagle" ; "The Infantry eagles were very heavy and their weight was increased by a stout oak pole."; The length of the pole embarrassed me much, and as the stick without the eagle. could not constitute a trophy"....I resolved with the major's consent to break it off and only carry off the eagle".
Before he could attempt this, he says a cannon ball went through the "hinder" peak of his hat ("held on by a strong leather strap under the chin"}, and the shock paralyzed him; "to such an extent that I could not move a single finger". Marbot never mentions the eagle, or what happened to it again - strange, considering it's importance.
Of course I cannot say definitively that the flag was not present but I find it strange that, if it was, Marbot did not think fit to mention it, despite having referred to the pole/stick three times.

Marbot didn't even make it back to Eylau being rendered unconscious when his horse collapsed on the way back and he was stripped of all but his hat and one boot by "a man of the transport corps" who had thought he was dead. A valet of Augereau later found him in this state after being alerted by recognizing some of Marbot's belongings being carried in a passing supply wagon. He had recognized Marbot's stolen Pelisse and watch (but no eagle?).

I know it's always unpopular to question assumed facts but all this makes me ask;- does anyone know if the flag/eagle of the 14th still exists or if there are any other accounts of what happened to it?
I have no reason to refute Marbot's account (although it does paint him as almost superhuman at times) but does anyone know of any other primary source account that corroborates his memoire.?

David
 
Marbod was wounded by train soldiers after the battle and found lying unconscious on the ground and believed to be dead. Next to him lay his dead horse, a mare named "Lisette" who had bled to death from a deep vein in her leg.


According to this report, Marbod held the eagle in his hand - there is no question of the flagpole or the flag. Marbod came to when someone tried to steal his boots.


The eagle of the lost 14th regiment was given to Marshal Augerau after the battle - it should still be in the possession of his descendants today.


Cheers
 
Marbod was wounded by train soldiers after the battle and found lying unconscious on the ground and believed to be dead. Next to him lay his dead horse, a mare named "Lisette" who had bled to death from a deep vein in her leg.
According to this report, Marbod held the eagle in his hand - there is no question of the flagpole or the flag. Marbod came to when someone tried to steal his boots.
The eagle of the lost 14th regiment was given to Marshal Augerau after the battle - it should still be in the possession of his descendants today.

Cheers


Thanks Martin That's interesting but which/who's report are you referring to? I would like to read that. I'm not trying to be difficult but some things don't agree with Marbot's own account. He was stripped of everything but a hat and a boot; but the looter left the eagle!!!! Don't know about you, but if I had been the looting Transport soldier, the eagle would have been the first thing I would have taken.

It's good to know that the eagle was eventually passed to Augereau but I don't see how Marbot could have presented it to him, when he says he was unconscious after Lisette stumbled and he never got back to headquarters.

Sorry to waffle on so much everyone I'm just finding this so fascinating.

After being found - (by then conscious again - I am quoting from page 267 - 270 of volume 1 of Marbot's memoirs here) Marbot says he was taken, by Augereau's valet who found him, (and who had sent for Marbot's own valet and some orderlies to help him), to a barn to bewhere he was later attended to by a Dr Raymond. He says Augereau himself later had him wrapped in things of his own. He also says the Transport soldier returned his belongs to him there, but again, I find it very strange that no mention is made of the eagle , or of it being passed to Augereau or his valet. It's as if the eagle seems to be of no importance in him in relating the events after he left the 14th.

Although Lisette was weakened by the wound in her leg she did not die. Marbot himself says he saw her before he was removed from the battlefield, standing and eating straw that had been used for the soldiers bivouacs the night before. Her wound had clotted in the cold and she was later bandaged and walked to Landsberg.

Marbot also says Lisete stumbled on his way back to Eylau and therefore he never got back there. He was not wounded after the battle, but was stabbed in the arm by a Russian officer while still with the 14th. He also reports being fired on by a battalion "of the Old Guard" just before Lisete fell. He says the Guard must have mistaken him for an enemy officer leading a charge - (WHAT! WHILE CARRYING AN EAGLE!). This (and Martins account of him having it in his hand when found) would also suggest to me that if he did have the eagle it was probably seperated from the staff. He says the Guard all missed him; - "my cloak and saddle were riddled, but I was not wounded, nor was my mare".

I don't doubt that Marbot was an honorable and brave man but he wouldn't have been the first to embellish a personal memoir, The more I think about it the less I'm convinced of the narrative - unless we can confirm that Augereau's family has the eagle and how it was passed to him we can only be certain that Marbot was sent to the 14th but maybe he never took the eagle? - that was not his mission and so far we have only his own word for it, . I would be happy to be proved wrong- but what does everyone else think?


David
 
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