NEW FIGURE GH Model' ('NAM')

[mister greg]

Steeve (thank you), I will use the same scale for all my figure (the next figure), and I stay positive
cheers

 

[Merkava]

That is true that Pegaso 'Nam soldier is amazing and undoubtedly, and the one painted by Diego Ruina is.... outch !!!! (I had the opportunity to see it in Italy in November). No words to describe it. But the Greg's soldier, even if it is less perfect, is also an interesting one. Very different and even if the face looks like a comics soldier but I like it. I have just ordered mine and I have already an idea to display it.
Keep going Greg !

 

[mister greg]

j'ai hâte de voir ta version Didier...

 

[T50]

Although it would be nice to get positive responses,
one also has to be ready to take some punches...
and you did it here like a man.

Worse than getting negative responses is to get
no responses at all. Been there, done that, seen all.

 

[gordy]

Although it would be nice to get positive responses,
one also has to be ready to take some punches...
and you did it here like a man.

Worse than getting negative responses is to get
no responses at all. Been there, done that, seen all.

Well said Taesung!
---

It takes brass balls to release a figure these days with all the armchair historians and colour-nazis vocalizing their opinions.

Keep in mind this, 99% of the most vocal critics never buy kits..

Seriously, is it any wonder why many sculptors go on to fantasy or war gaming?? The land of no wrong!

 

[Markus]

Although it would be nice to get positive responses,
one also has to be ready to take some punches...
and you did it here like a man.

Worse than getting negative responses is to get
no responses at all. Been there, done that, seen all.

Well said Teasung !!

Keep in mind this, 99% of the most vocal critics never buy kits..

Gordy: You are soooo right !!!

Seriously, is it any wonder why many sculptors go on to fantasy or war gaming?? The land of no wrong!

Are sure about that Gordy? I think they can be also as brutal as the historicans...

@Mister Greg: I can`t say anything about the historical correctness of your figure, cause NAM ist absolutlkey not my time period.

But I want to say: Don`t stop what you`re doing. I think you are doing a good work - and you have the heart to do what wants to come out of you middle

 

[Merkava]

Mister Greg need not a lawyer but I think he is very shy. Also, I must say he has already sculpted numerous beautiful figures for JMD miniatures (check out their website) and others brands. The poses of some of them show he manages anatomy much better than most of us.

 

[georges64]

Mister Greg need not a lawyer

@ Didier,
finalement tes dernières réponses ferait de toi un bon avocat
Humour
amicalement,

georges.

 

[mister greg]

thank you again and again my friend!
and if my next figure will be "good", it will be good thank of you !!!
didier : it's true, Im very shy and my english is so bad....
gordy : I promise to you... I will stay in the historical figure! I' not afraid

 

[marios1]

i like so much this figure.

Hi Greg, i like so much your figure...in fact i ordered from you it last week...! Yes perhaps there is a problem with ears and perhaps the right arms seems a bit little respect left arms but i like however!!! I dont find similitude with Pegaso figure,different scale, different uniform .different weapon and so on, then PEgaso is in Metal and your is in resin, and at least different price!!!
I love viet nam and till yesterday i bought nam figures in 1.35 and 54mm ( all in the market, may be ) and same 120 mm ,yours will be the first of this scale, but i ordered it becouse i like it so much.

Congratulation !!!
When i ll receive it i ll speak about it!!!

Mario from Italy.

 

[mister greg]

Ciao Mario!!!
I hope that you will like the scale and the resin, and when you will paint this figure, I hope that you'll send me some pictures and some help for my next figures!!!
cheers

 

[JasonB]

Well said Taesung!
---

It takes brass balls to release a figure these days with all the armchair historians and colour-nazis vocalizing their opinions.

Keep in mind this, 99% of the most vocal critics never buy kits..

Seriously, is it any wonder why many sculptors go on to fantasy or war gaming?? The land of no wrong!

I would say this in response. If someone is going to make the effort to sculpt a historically based figure, why not take the time to get the details right? Its not like theres a lack of reference available on the internet to anyone wanting to find it, in books, or through the simple act of asking a question of those who may know a little more about a subject. Something I have noticed more and more is the lack of real critiquing of figures when they are reviewed here. I have yet to see a figure that has obvious flaws, rough or poor sculpting, or poor molding, actually get called out in the reviews section. All too often it becomes "the figure has character" or "another great sculpt" from person X, when obviously its not. I don't think I have ever seen a negative review of a figure the entire time I have been around here. I have been told more than once that saying anything negative, even in a constructive manner, is really not wanted, and I am starting to believe it.

 

[housecarl]

I come from the school of, if you haven't got anything constructive to say, say nothing.
Carl.

 

[gordy]

I would say this in response. If someone is going to make the effort to sculpt a historically based figure, why not take the time to get the details right? Its not like theres a lack of reference available on the internet to anyone wanting to find it, in books, or through the simple act of asking a question of those who may know a little more about a subject.

People do and try to get the details right, not all sculptors know who to ask.

Sculptors in the past HAVE asked the members about details, Young has for example. THAT does happen.

Something I have noticed more and more is the lack of real critiquing of figures when they are reviewed here. I have yet to see a figure that has obvious flaws, rough or poor sculpting, or poor molding, actually get called out in the reviews section. All too often it becomes "the figure has character" or "another great sculpt" from person X, when obviously its not. I don't think I have ever seen a negative review of a figure the entire time I have been around here. I have been told more than once that saying anything negative, even in a constructive manner, is really not wanted, and I am starting to believe it.

We don't have a ratings scale for the reviews per se.

The reviews are 90 % a tool for people to view the quality of the castings, the packaging and to show people the contents prior to purchase not based on sculpting talent or tedious historical research.

Guy shoulders this burden and does it well and to the level expected. He also does this voluntarily in his free time and with a backlog of pieces.

Some reviews are more in depth however, and may cover those areas.

How many reviews have you done ?

 

[gordy]

I have been told more than once that saying anything negative, even in a constructive manner, is really not wanted, and I am starting to believe it.

Let me set the record straight: I have NEVER mandated that.

If what you say is true and "people" are telling you that, that is a problem.

 

[JasonB]

I come from the school of, if you haven't got anything constructive to say, say nothing.
Carl.

But how constructive and helpful is that? I'm not saying you have to trash a figure, but to me, its ok to point out the negatives and positives. I think that helps people on down the line, or they just keep repeating the same mistakes.

People do and try to get the details right, not all sculptors know who to ask.

Sculptors in the past HAVE asked the members about details, Young has for example. THAT does happen.

Thats good, I wish more people would do that

We don't have a ratings scale for the reviews per se.

The reviews are 90 % a tool for people to view the quality of the castings, the packaging and to show people the contents prior to purchase not based on sculpting talent or tedious historical research.

Guy shoulders this burden and does it well and to the level expected. He also does this voluntarily in his free time and with a backlog of pieces.

Some reviews are more in depth however, and may cover those areas.

How many reviews have you done ?

I haven't done any, no one sends me figures to review. They probably wouldn't like my reviews anyhow, since I would point out the negatives as well as the positives, cover the quality of the casting and accuracy of the details as much as possible. I get the feeling that a lot of manufacturers wouldn't provide reviews samples for too long if they are taken to task for their accuracy or quality. A positive review is good advertising, a negative review is not. Just look at the responses for this figure, simply for pointing out some detail or accuracy issues and questioning the quality of the head sculpt. When I see a figure kit that is obviously (at least to me) poorly sculpted or molded, I don't want to be told its another excellent kit. That does no one any good. It will only encourage the sculptor or company to keep repeating the same mistakes, and might confuse the person looking at the review. Sure we can see the pictures for ourselves, but if the reviewer says the kit is excellent, then we may defer simply because we don't have it in our hands to judge for ourselves. Obviously this could lead to being disappointed when we plop down come cold hard cash to buy it, and get something less than what we were expecting.

 

[gordy]

I agree with that sentiment jburch.

To Guy's defense in his reviews he is providing a "close" look at the kits and offer a way for people to make their own determinations beyond just a snazzy box art with little subjective points on accuracy or sculptors talent. Guys in-box extensive photos are great for making those hard-earned-cash-informed decisions.

Now this brings to light a couple more points to ponder:

1) It would be AWESOME if folks were to take a kit and review it in such a way that the author would not only point out errors but also how to correct the errors!

2) A kit doesn't have to be sent by a manufacturer for any member to review!

 

[gothicgeek]

Nice work Greg!

Gotta say I like your distinctive style of sculpting



Mark

 

[Einion]

I come from the school of, if you haven't got anything constructive to say, say nothing.

Up to a point I'd agree Carl. But in terms of comments on models critique shouldn't be equated with criticism per se - negative comments for the sake of it, or to be nasty.

If someone is going to make the effort to sculpt a historically based figure, why not take the time to get the details right?

I think you'll be surprised to find out that this isn't the first time this sentiment has been raised. Not just here, but in precursors to this site.

And you want the honest answer to the question? Because not enough of the buyers care. Quite apart from the proof of this in terms of what sells previous discussions on this topic have shown this is the prevailing view here, at least from those who actually participate (it's true elsewhere too - there are exact parallels in armour circles and I presume amongst aircraft modellers).

I have yet to see a figure that has obvious flaws, rough or poor sculpting, or poor molding, actually get called out in the reviews section. All too often it becomes "the figure has character" or "another great sculpt" from person X, when obviously its not. I don't think I have ever seen a negative review of a figure the entire time I have been around here.

Eh? You must not look at the site that much (there are some in the threads still on the first page of Figure News)! There are a few members who will critique stuff (as distinct from ripping it to bits as seen on page 1 of this thread!) as and when they notice it, and feel like leaving a comment.

But you are right, there isn't a culture of critique here. There have been some attempts to start the ball rolling on developing one, but it largely fell on deaf ears; and to be blunt, a few times even intimating that such a thing is needed has garnered criticism.

I have been told more than once that saying anything negative, even in a constructive manner, is really not wanted, and I am starting to believe it.

Although there's a nugget of truth there that would be an exaggeration.

I get the feeling that a lot of manufacturers wouldn't provide reviews samples for too long if they are taken to task for their accuracy or quality. A positive review is good advertising, a negative review is not. Just look at the responses for this figure, simply for pointing out some detail or accuracy issues and questioning the quality of the head sculpt.

Well FWIW that is probably true of some makers. But Mil Mod's reviews for example, in the brief space allowed, can be positive or negative.

Sure we can see the pictures for ourselves, but if the reviewer says the kit is excellent, then we may defer simply because we don't have it in our hands to judge for ourselves. Obviously this could lead to being disappointed when we plop down come cold hard cash to buy it, and get something less than what we were expecting.

It's no different from film reviews; even a trusted critic whose opinions you mostly agree with will sometimes hate something you think is good fun or even better than that.

When it comes to models, one person's excellent is another person's meh, and they can both be just as earnest in their views.

Einion

 

[Einion]

People do and try to get the details right, not all sculptors know who to ask.

Sculptors in the past HAVE asked the members about details, Young has for example. THAT does happen.

That's fair enough Gordy, but we know that many sculptors can't be said to do 'due diligence'. Some of this will be down to not realising their references are dodgy (poorly researched or merely out of date) but some simply don't care; they know that regardless, it'll sell if people like their style.

Even amongst the sculptors who post here there's little or no interest in taking advantage of the pool of knowledge and/or accepting critical input - far too often it seems that what they really want is kudos and nothing else*. Even historical points that are not a matter of opinion or viewpoint are deflected, argued, or just ignored. And we shouldn't forget the incident that led to someone packing up their toys and storming away from the sandbox...

*Partly shown by the photos being posted when it's no longer feasible or cost-effective to do any revisions.

Einion