New samurai horseman by Revolution

[Alex]

I'm curious about something.
I will get at least the 90 mm and possibly the 120 mm version of the newest mounted figure from Talant in september. But I would be more than happy to paint the original one as well.
Does anybody have the resin version of the original sculpt made for Authorsculpt ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but if Authorsculpt is out of business and if Talant agrees with making a newer run of his original sculpt, maybe we could get some copies of the original as well ? Talant, the caster and the owner of this well sought after sculpt could share the profits.

 

[TSJ]

The original of the old samurai does not exist. I have a copy, but it is of very poor quality. The old samurai had a problem, the horse stood on one leg. Many who bought it broke down.

 

[Alex]

The original of the old samurai does not exist. I have a copy, but it is of very poor quality. The old samurai had a problem, the horse stood on one leg. Many who bought it broke down.

Hi Talent !

Speaking about falling horses, it might be a good idea to incorporate (during the casting) a metal wire in one of the leg of your new horse going deep inside the body. I can't wait to see your newest samurai !

cheers

alex

 

[TSJ]

Hi Talent !

Speaking about falling horses, it might be a good idea to incorporate (during the casting) a metal wire in one of the leg of your new horse going deep inside the body. I can't wait to see your newest samurai !

cheers

alex

Hi Alex,
I will test for strength. If necessary, I will incorporate a metal wire in one of the leg. I will start selling when I am sure that it will not break.

 

[The Riveteer]

You forgot about my samurai, which was produced by Autosculpt. My samurai carries a tachi sword.
Seil released a replica of my samurai


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A fantastic sculpt I missed out on. I remember to this day seeing it at a Euromilitaire as I entered the main dealer room and passing on it to give me time to peruse all the other new kits. After a preliminary recce I returned to the dealer about an hour later to find it sold out, and I've never seen one for sale since. Damn.
Hope that it gets a new release in greater numbers.
David

 

[The Riveteer]

Wonderful. I will correct the horse's head. Thanks

Wonderful to see a sculptor take constructive criticism on board without taking any offence and making changes accordingly
Thanks to Talant and Nicloae for bringing TS Miniatures and Il Miniatures to my attention. And to Yellowcat;- well done on the comparative illustrations.

David

 

[yellowcat]

Just in case you have not seen this video before. Here is a link from Koyodai Kiso horse ranch in Japan (紅葉台木曽馬牧場). You can "see and feel" the real size of Kiso horse in action.

 

[The Riveteer]

Just in case you have not seen this video before. Here is a link from Koyodai Kiso horse ranch in Japan (紅葉台木曽馬牧場). You can "see and feel" the real size of Kiso horse in action.

Interesting to see these horse at full pelt. They don't look like they are at a gallop at all - more like a very fast trot, with all four feet near the ground at all times.

David

 

[TSJ]

A fantastic sculpt I missed out on. I remember to this day seeing it at a Euromilitaire as I entered the main dealer room and passing on it to give me time to peruse all the other new kits. After a preliminary recce I returned to the dealer about an hour later to find it sold out, and I've never seen one for sale since. Damn.
Hope that it gets a new release in greater numbers.
David

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[yellowcat]

Interesting to see these horse at full pelt. They don't look like they are at a gallop at all - more like a very fast trot, with all four feet near the ground at all times.

David

The horses of the Kiso breed have a large and heavy head as well as a wide forehead. The neck is short and thick. The trunk is long, with short, but sturdy legs attached. The hooves are hardy and well-formed. The mane is heavy and so is the tail. The Kiso horse stands at an average height of just over 13 hands (52 inches, 132 centimeters).

In 2015 tests were conducted by NHK (Japan Broadcasting Corporation and shortened from Nippon Hōsō Kyōkai), on the short-legged, heavy-set, shaggy-haired native Kiso horse (131 cm high), compared with a modern bred horse (152 cm high) and found that the pony-like Kiso was faster and more agile than expected. Carrying a 62kg rider in full armor and weapons, traditional Abumi stirrups and Kura (saddle) making 92kg in all, and using a purebred Kiso horse, the type used by the samurai, they discovered that the horse could gallop 100m in 12.03 seconds, a fraction faster than a modern bred Sawago horse, which managed 12.07 seconds. In the Figure 8 test, the smaller native horse was found to be more agile, and able to make a tighter turning circle.

As for the endurance of native Japanese horses, a test done by the Nihon Kacchū Kiba Kenkyūkai (日本甲冑騎馬研究会, Japan Armoured Equestrian Research Society) established that a trained Kiso horse was able to run for 1 km with an average speed of 21 km/h carrying an armoured rider, and it was able to run for about 3.5 km before being exhausted.

 

[The Riveteer]

More valuable info Yellowcat.
My comment on the gait of the gallop was aimed at the usual depiction of modern horse movement which seems more "animated" than the Kiso in the video you posted.
It now makes me question the stories of Ichinotani, as depicted in the Pegaso figure;-. The Kiso in the video seem speedy enough on level ground but I can no longer imagine such a tactic succeeding with Kiso moving in such a restrained manner (refering to leg movement) and with those short legs. If the slope at Ichinotani was as steep as usually depicted I can only imagine a much more restrained "charge" taking place, otherwise I would expect the front heavy Kiso to be susceptible to falling headfirst down the hillside.
Interesting.
David

 

[yellowcat]

More valuable info Yellowcat.
My comment on the gait of the gallop was aimed at the usual depiction of modern horse movement which seems more "animated" than the Kiso in the video you posted.
It now makes me question the stories of Ichinotani, as depicted in the Pegaso figure;-. The Kiso in the video seem speedy enough on level ground but I can no longer imagine such a tactic succeeding with Kiso moving in such a restrained manner (refering to leg movement) and with those short legs. If the slope at Ichinotani was as steep as usually depicted I can only imagine a much more restrained "charge" taking place, otherwise I would expect the front heavy Kiso to be susceptible to falling headfirst down the hillside.
Interesting.
David

Here is another video from the Koyodai Kiso horse ranch in Japan (紅葉台木曽馬牧場). The first part of the video explains why mounted Samurai only carry tachi on horseback and not katana. The second part showed Kiso horses galloping down the hillside. Despite of their large head, short and thick neck, Kiso horses also have short sturdy stable legs with a stocky body and their hooves are well formed and hard they can steadily climb up and down narrow steep mountain trails.

 

[Nap]

Fascinating information on the kiso ..great videos from yellowcat interesting to watch

Again good posts from all and reaction from TSJ

Nap

 

[yellowcat]

Here is a figure kit with a Kiso horse which I have totally forgotten the Calder Craft 150mm Mounted Samurai. The legs could just be a bit shorter.