November 19, 2005

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Martin Antonenko

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US Marines carry out a massacre in retaliation!


On November 19, 2005 at around 7:30 a.m. on an arterial road in the Iraqi city of Al Haditha (350 km northwest of the capital Baghdad)...



...a vehicle convoy consisting of four "Humvees" from the "Kilo Company" of the 3rd Battalion of the 1st US Marines Regiment drives towards a US checkpoint that they are supposed to occupy.

They are approached by a white car, which, as they later say, "looks like a taxi".

The Marines stop the "taxi" to control it and stop as well.

At that moment, a bomb explodes under the third "Humvee", totally destroying the vehicle...





US Marine Lance Corporal Miguel Terrazas is killed instantly!



Two more Marines are wounded...:



But there are many more dead on this day:

In their mission report, the surviving Marines later claim that from the moment the bomb blew up, they were immediately and massively fired upon from the other three cars and were forced to shoot back to defend themselves.



The Marines also claim that 15 Iraqis were killed directly in the bomb blast and eight others were shot dead in gun battles. The next picture shows some of the victims - and the "taxi"...:



From the first moment, doubts arise about this depiction of the marines, since no (Iraqi) weapons were found at the scene!

This is also proven by video recordings of the Iraqi journalism student Taher Al-Thabet...



...which he did on the day of the incident and forwarded it to the "Times" magazine...:

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Persistent research by US American and Iraqi journalists later proves that the statements made by the marines are all lies or fictitious!

In fact, out of anger at their slain comrades, the Marines are massacring the Iraqis!

In their retaliatory action, 24 unarmed Iraqi civilians, including nine women, five children and an older, one-legged man in a wheelchair, fell victim to the "taxi" and surrounding houses. Everyone is shot at close range or killed by throwing hand grenades into a house!





After the incident, superior US Marine commanders are doing their best to cover up the incident!

When that comes out, the 3rd Battalion commander, Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani...



...and two of his company commanders, Captain Luke McConnell...



...and Captain James Kimber are relieved of their command.

Staff members of Maj. Gen. Richard A. Huck...

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... who commanded a division in Iraq, and Col. Stephen W. Davis...

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... did not investigate inconsistencies and inaccuracies in an initial report. Disciplinary action will be taken against all involved.

In mid-December 2006 charges of murder and manslaughter were brought before a military court against the squad leader, Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich, and against three other soldiers...:



By June 2008, all suspects except Wuterich had been acquitted.

Wuterich's lawyer makes a "deal" with the military prosecutor:

The staff sergeant...



... pleads guilty to having "violated his official duties", in return the public prosecutor drops the charge of manslaughter - and Wuterich gets three months for "violating his official duties", which he does not have to serve.

After the trial ended, the United States Marine Corps paid $1,500–$2,500 in compensation for each Iraqi civilian killed (depending on whether man, woman, or child).



However, they refused to pay for nine other men they shot who they believed were insurgents.

This statement was refuted by official investigators, who said the victims were all "innocent".

Nevertheless, their relatives have not received a cent to this day...
 
So beside the pictures the story seems to be simple: the Marines were lured into an ambush and took a kind of revenge by assaulting the taxi and the nearby buildings without identifying combattants and non-combattants. And yes - because this is regarded as a warcrime when the anti-partisan-actions of the German Wehrmacht and SS are to be judged the Marines had to set up a report that justified this action in the face of people that sit in their chairs back home, don't know anything how it feels to be at the spot within these situations, and to the nations that always occupy the moral high ground - including their US-homeland. I am sure that many of these incidents were not reported or investigated - war is hell.
 
I am sure that many of these incidents were not reported or investigated - war is hell.

You're definitely right about that.

But it is striking how the reactions in well-known cases (My Lai 1968, Al Haditha 2005, or Chenogne 1945) differ from those passed by US courts in war crimes committed by soldiers from other states (e.g. Nazi Germany in the case of the massacre of SS -relatives at Malmedy 1944).

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Yes, much like the Holocaust. Even a bigger massacre.

Sry mate, this is pure bullshit!


Cheers
 
You're definitely right about that.
But it is striking how the reactions in well-known cases (My Lai 1968, Al Haditha 2005, or Chenogne 1945) differ from those passed by US courts in war crimes committed by soldiers from other states (e.g. Nazi Germany in the case of the massacre of SS -relatives at Malmedy 1944).

The difference is that the winner of a war never judges his soldiers in the same way than he deals with the defeated and that "freedom fighters" and "terrorists" cannot be identied by their methods to fight a guerilla war. Although the International Criminal Tribunal for Warcrimes in Hague was set up with support from US who supply personnel for the prosecutors and judges - their soldiers are not subject to this institution.

On the other hand I guess that the bomb did not set off just by coincidence and a cellphone can be the weapon that did the job - no firearms necessary - and so for sure not everybody at the spot was just an innocent bystander. IMHO the influence of combat stress when responding to an ambush like that has to be taken into account when looking at this incident. Describing it as massacre is questionable.

When I was on duty in my second mission abroad in 2008 I regulary listened to AFN and almost on a daily basis you could learn about another casualty within the ranks of the Coalition Forces in Iraq or Afghanistan due to an ambush or an IED. One of my comrades that signed off for a job in Afghanistan after passing the High Risk Operators course became a casualty within three weeks. When a bomb sets off and you already have suffered casualties you don`t wait for the next strike but strike back to get out alive. A "rule of combat" that is not understood by some armchair generals and PC-people and of course no one of the officers that were removed from their posts or faced disciplinary action could tell that in public....
 
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