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Piskot

Piskot

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Hello all together!
I am a regular reader of the forum and now I'll try it myself! Please help with oil paints!:unsure:

I wonder what color you use for oil painting of the face and if you can list the types of colors and brands! What I need to buy and whether there is a link for step by step in painting with oils?

Thank you, Gregor
 
HiGregor

I recommendyouto makesWindsor &Newton,OuldHolland,Mussini.
Make surethatyou take thehigh-quality colors.

There are at Fredericus Rex.de CD / DVD in English about the painting and the mixing ratios of oil paints, I can only recommend. Check out the easy times www.

Cheers

Hendryk
 
Piskot said:
Hello all together!
I am a regular reader of the forum and now I'll try it myself! Please help with oil paints!:unsure:

I wonder what color you use for oil painting of the face and if you can list the types of colors and brands! What I need to buy and whether there is a link for step by step in painting with oils?

Thank you, Gregor
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Hi Gregor
Every oil painter has his own preferance when it comes to painting flesh colours,they're are many brands available as well,i live in the UK and the main type available to me are by Windsor + Newton,if you are starting out with oils i would stick to some of the popular colours for mixing flesh,dont run before you can walk!,it takes time to get used to oils and i would advise you practise on some old kits before you take on any of your good figures.
i have been using oils for about 25yrs now and the colours i use for flesh are:

Burnt Sienna
Burnt Umber
Raw Umber
Gold Ochre
Tittanium White
Venetian Red

I have only listed 6 colours as thats all you need to practise some basic flesh mixes,you can always move on to more colours once you become more confident with the medium.

Practise mixing Burnt Sienna + Tittanium White together to get a basic flesh shade,add more white to the mix for your highlights and more Burnt sienna for your medium shade.
Try adding some small amounts of Burnt umber to your medium mix for a darker shade,work accross the pallete working from shadow to highlight.
I sometimes use venetian red added to my mix for some warmth in the cheeks.

I am only giving you here some exercises to practise with,oil paints can be very expensive so it pays just to start off with the basics.

They're are many great oil painters on this website and no doubt they will be giving you there input,at the end of the day its all down to practise,try to create your own style,its a superb painting medium and you can achieve some beautiful effects with it.

I would recomend the following books if you can get hold of them,i used them when i sarted out painting with oils all them years ago and i still refer to them now,they have some excellent articles on oil painting.

How to build dioramas - Sheperd Paine
How to paint scale figures - Shepard Paine
Colour Theory and Application - Bob Knee - (Excellent for beginners in oils)

Brian
 
Hi Gregor.
I will echo Brians advice choice of colours above, as a personal addition I find that adding the smallest touch of blue or green to the mix (not more than the tip of a brush) gives a realism to the tones.
Also I find that you can limit the amount of shine that you get with oils by mixing the tones on a piece of white card. If you let the paint sit on the card for a few moments some of the oil will be soaked up into the card. Using distiled artists turpentine to thin the colours will also help in reducing the shine.
The main thing, as Brian says is practice practice practice.
Good luck.

Cheers,
Keith
 
Hi, Gregor, and welcome to the Planet!

I use Mussini-Schminke oils, but I cheat and start with a basic flesh color, instead of mixing other colors to get flesh, and then add other colors to darken/redden it or make it paler. I'm working up to mixing flesh from the beginning as described in Brian's post above.

Prost!
Brad
 
Paul Kernan said:
Great advice, Brian. Wondering...do you ever add a blue to your mix to kill the 'orange' of the sienna?

Cheers
Paul
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Paul,i have never added blue to my flesh mixes before but i'm always reading articles on oil painting and have read in some articles about painters adding blue and green,i will probably give this a go at some time,i like experimenting,sometimes you can come up with great mixes by accident,its a great medium (y)
If you feel confident give it a go mate (y)

Brian
 
Piskot said:
I wonder what color you use for oil painting of the face and if you can list the types of colors and brands!
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Where are you based Gregor? Some brands can be very expensive in other markets and there could be others that will be better value that you'll be able to get more easily.

Caucasian fleshtones are basically a slightly dull tint of orange, so almost any red + yellow + white can be used as a base. Depending on which paints you're using you may need to dull this down a touch, in which case a dot of blue, green or black can all work - it can be a good idea to premix these with white before you add them to the base mix.

This post has further information and some links to previous threads:
http://www.planetfigure.com/threads/oil-paints-winsor-newton.40989/#post-420274

I would steer clear of mixtures that rely on too many colours - you're aiming for a subdued orange or scarlet, try to spot anything extra that doesn't help you achieve that directly.

Einion
 
Hi Gregor,
Here's how I do flesh.
1.undercoat with Humbrol sand
2.I let this dry for about 24 hours
3.a mix of Burnt Sienna+Yellow Ochre + a tiny amount of Raw Umber. You should end up with a sort of dark brown almost a mahogany colour.
4.I apply this quite thickly and leave for about 30 minutes.
5.Using a wide flat brush remove the bulk of the paint leaving a stain and in creases and low points the paint will be a little thicker.
6.Dry for 24 hrs
7.Dry brush with Naples Yellow
8.Additional highlights added with more Naples yellow+white and low lights Burnt Sienna or Raw Umber or a mix of BS+RU.
9.Then eyes lips etc are completed.

Hope this helps if I can be of help let me know.
I really should take photos for a SBS......maybe one day

Regards

Chris
 
thank you all! I'll start and report! I use sable brushes kolinsky seria 7 I hope that they are okay ....

Gregor
 
W&N Series 7? If you get a good example their quality is fine but they're among the most expensive brushes in their class and their consistency isn't what it once was. There are many good alternatives these days where the quality is as good or better, often for less money.

Einion
 
Einion said:
W&N Series 7? If you get a good example their quality is fine but they're among the most expensive brushes in their class and their consistency isn't what it once was. There are many good alternatives these days where the quality is as good or better, often for less money.

Einion
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OK! Which alternative do you recommend I have a brush Raphael series 8404
 
The Raphaël 8404 series are great brushes, lots of former Series 7 users have transitioned to the 8404s and think they're as good or better (me included). I'd rate them higher these days because they're easily the same quality as Series 7 are supposed to be but more consistently, plus their retail price can be considerably lower - nearly a third less. Although the way pricing works online they can cost more than the W&N brushes unfortunately.

Other quality choices that might be easiest for you to locate include daVinci Maestro and Escoda Reserva.

Einion
 
In relation to the Rosemary & Co. brushes, just to mention that they're noted for being a little softer than the norm for Kolinskys. Their quality is very good but if you like your brushes to be slightly stiffer - more 'spring' - then they're not the best choice. This is why I didn't recommend them above, they don't make as good a like-for-like switch for Series 7s if that's what you're used to and prefer in terms of handling.

Einion
 
I will use this conversation to another question .... how bland colors and if I need white spirit, turpentine .... at the very end but once again thank you all for your help!


Brushes which I use 3/0, 2/0, 1/0, 0, 1, 2
Need some other brushes or is it OK! They are all W & N Series 7

Thanks to all
Gregor

Where are you based Gregor?
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I come from Slovenia ....
 

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