Fernando Ruiz
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FeR
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FeR
PATRICK KAMSA cossack online course thread
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Patrick Kamsma
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First post. I'm off.
Nothing fancy though.
I've cleaned the mouldlines on the "shoes", under the right arm and the pouch under the left.
Figure is nearly perfect. Very good quality.
I've found 3 small airbubbles, one on the chin, one on the top of its right shoe and one on the cape. A small imperfection on the sleeve near his right hand, but nothing putty can't solve easily.
Straightend the wooden beam and put some pins under his feet.
The hand is a bit tricky. Dril a little hole in the hand for a good fit.
No putty needed.
Next step, preparing a base and try to come up with some kind of background.
Grtz
Patrick
Nothing fancy though.
I've cleaned the mouldlines on the "shoes", under the right arm and the pouch under the left.
Figure is nearly perfect. Very good quality.
I've found 3 small airbubbles, one on the chin, one on the top of its right shoe and one on the cape. A small imperfection on the sleeve near his right hand, but nothing putty can't solve easily.
Straightend the wooden beam and put some pins under his feet.
The hand is a bit tricky. Dril a little hole in the hand for a good fit.
No putty needed.
Next step, preparing a base and try to come up with some kind of background.
Grtz
Patrick
Fernando Ruiz
A Fixture
Nice start, Patrick! Nothing as a good and clean start as a basis for a good work.
Regards
FeR
Regards
FeR
Patrick Kamsma
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Re: PATRICK KAMSMA cossack online course thread
I've made some flat stones out of wallfiller. It supposed to be a pile of slate stones.
It is something I'm playing with to get the right composition. After that I will file the edges of the stone. It's too thick now.
When the base is done, I will include small slate rocks as wel.
Grtz
Patrick
I've made some flat stones out of wallfiller. It supposed to be a pile of slate stones.
It is something I'm playing with to get the right composition. After that I will file the edges of the stone. It's too thick now.
When the base is done, I will include small slate rocks as wel.
Grtz
Patrick
Fernando Ruiz
A Fixture
I like it. The composition looks balanced so far. Good idea.
FeR
FeR
Patrick Kamsma
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Hello FeR
I'm starting to believe that your figure is 120mm and mine is 54mm.
You paint highlights I can't even see. Even with an optivisor.
I had a bad start, as I was using your figure as a guide.
For a newb like me, of course, the result wouldn't be near your work.
It's to overwhelming. So far for my motivation (Aaaah!!)
So I shut down the computer, and start painting like I'm supposed to do. Just have fun.
I used your colourpallet and already learned a couple of things about skincolours. So this course had a good start.
I had a lot of problems painting the eyes and eyelids. How do you paint eyes? Do you dilute your paint? Which nr of brush?
I'm glad my figure don't look crosseyed, but I'm not painting a white highlight in the iris. It took me so much time to get it so far right.
I've had no troubles with blending the colours. I think I understand the concept well. Where to put shadows and highlights, and mainly the intensity, is something I want to learn here.
My work this weekend.
In my opinion, besides a few touch-ups on the bald head, the skincolour on the head and chest is finished. The hair is just a base colour the see the contrast. The neck and hands only in base colour.
Some pictures:
More pictures:
http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/album.php?albumid=297
Please comment.
Grtz
Patrick
I'm starting to believe that your figure is 120mm and mine is 54mm.
You paint highlights I can't even see. Even with an optivisor.
I had a bad start, as I was using your figure as a guide.
For a newb like me, of course, the result wouldn't be near your work.
It's to overwhelming. So far for my motivation
(Aaaah!!)So I shut down the computer, and start painting like I'm supposed to do. Just have fun.
I used your colourpallet and already learned a couple of things about skincolours. So this course had a good start.
I had a lot of problems painting the eyes and eyelids. How do you paint eyes? Do you dilute your paint? Which nr of brush?
I'm glad my figure don't look crosseyed, but I'm not painting a white highlight in the iris. It took me so much time to get it so far right.
I've had no troubles with blending the colours. I think I understand the concept well. Where to put shadows and highlights, and mainly the intensity, is something I want to learn here.
My work this weekend.
In my opinion, besides a few touch-ups on the bald head, the skincolour on the head and chest is finished. The hair is just a base colour the see the contrast. The neck and hands only in base colour.
Some pictures:
More pictures:
http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/album.php?albumid=297
Please comment.
Grtz
Patrick
Fernando Ruiz
A Fixture
Your figure is not that bad. With a bit more of work could be even better.
Don't be disappointed if you don't get the same results I do. When painting miniatures there are huge steps between getting an explanation, understand that explanation and be able to apply the knowledge. Almost always, it comes with practice.
So, even if this whole course just served to let you understand a couple of things about flesh tones, is a nice advancement.
The main problems I see are in the areas around the eyes. In the right side, you have marked something that is like a bag under the eye, too big and displaced to be the lower eyelid. You'll have to correct that. Just take the other side as model, as you did it OK there. To paint the eyes, I use the same brush I used in the rest of the head, a number 1. If you feel you'll have better chances with a thinner brush, go ahead. The trick with the paint there is to thin it to a point that it still is opaque but not too thick. If you thin it too much it will be hard to control and too transparent...
Regards
FeR
Don't be disappointed if you don't get the same results I do. When painting miniatures there are huge steps between getting an explanation, understand that explanation and be able to apply the knowledge. Almost always, it comes with practice.
So, even if this whole course just served to let you understand a couple of things about flesh tones, is a nice advancement.
The main problems I see are in the areas around the eyes. In the right side, you have marked something that is like a bag under the eye, too big and displaced to be the lower eyelid. You'll have to correct that. Just take the other side as model, as you did it OK there. To paint the eyes, I use the same brush I used in the rest of the head, a number 1. If you feel you'll have better chances with a thinner brush, go ahead. The trick with the paint there is to thin it to a point that it still is opaque but not too thick. If you thin it too much it will be hard to control and too transparent...
Regards
FeR
Patrick Kamsma
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update of the past weeks work.
I've corrected the sag under the left eye.
I haven't made photo's when the shirt was finished. I was a bit too lazy and, like mentioned in another post, it's a colour that is never finished.
The sleeves won't come out like I wanted. so I let it rest for a couple of days. Also one of the reasons why there were no pictures.
So I made a start with the trousers. That went very well (compared to my skills). Although, thanks to the pictures I found some things to improve.
Last weekend I've finished the sleeves of the shirt.
So in my opinion the shirt and trousers are ready for some pointers.
Thanks for looking.
Some close-ups:
Grtz
Patrick
I've corrected the sag under the left eye.
I haven't made photo's when the shirt was finished. I was a bit too lazy and, like mentioned in another post, it's a colour that is never finished.
The sleeves won't come out like I wanted. so I let it rest for a couple of days. Also one of the reasons why there were no pictures.
So I made a start with the trousers. That went very well (compared to my skills). Although, thanks to the pictures I found some things to improve.
Last weekend I've finished the sleeves of the shirt.
So in my opinion the shirt and trousers are ready for some pointers.
Thanks for looking.
Some close-ups:
Grtz
Patrick
Fernando Ruiz
A Fixture
Both items are very nicely done, specially the shirt! The trousers have gone to a tone somewhat orange in the highlights. Don't know if you have done it deliberately, but it looks nice with the skin tone, that is warmer than othr versions.
Nicely done!
FeR
Nicely done!
FeR
Patrick Kamsma
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Thank you FeR, for the kind words.
I'm finishing my last figure in a couple of days now, so I'm back on this course/ this cossack probably next monday. It's time to finish this puppy
Grtz
Patrick
I'm finishing my last figure in a couple of days now, so I'm back on this course/ this cossack probably next monday. It's time to finish this puppy
Grtz
Patrick
Patrick Kamsma
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Ok, Figure is done I guess.
Only it needs some matt varnish and of course the base.
I couldn't find the citadel colors, so I made my own mix of Scorged Brown.
Same with the belt and the ring above the chest. My own Vallejo mix of red-copper, some black, and bit of gold highlights.
The iron pieces on the weapon also mix of black and metal-steel, black wash and a highlight of metal-steel.
Grtz
Patrick
Only it needs some matt varnish and of course the base.
I couldn't find the citadel colors, so I made my own mix of Scorged Brown.
Same with the belt and the ring above the chest. My own Vallejo mix of red-copper, some black, and bit of gold highlights.
The iron pieces on the weapon also mix of black and metal-steel, black wash and a highlight of metal-steel.
Grtz
Patrick
Patrick Kamsma
Well-Known Member
Hello
Next update, the groundwork.
A little contrast with the dark red trousers and the green on the base.
The rough base is finished. I have to add some fine sand, a bit of pigments to tie the figure to the base and some washes.
Grtz
Patrick
Next update, the groundwork.
A little contrast with the dark red trousers and the green on the base.
The rough base is finished. I have to add some fine sand, a bit of pigments to tie the figure to the base and some washes.
Grtz
Patrick
Piotrec
A Fixture
It looks really good. I like it.
Fernando Ruiz
A Fixture
Nice work, mate!
Regards
FeR
Regards
FeR
Patrick Kamsma
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Thanks guys.
Great learning experience. Especially the whites and the facial tones.
I've completed the figure and the base and I'm done with it.
Another one for the competitiontables and showcase at home.
Thank you FeR for spending your precious time.
I hope we meet in person one day. Maybe Scale Model Challenge (advertising our own show), or at Euro maybe.
Final round of pictures:
Greetings
Patrick
Great learning experience. Especially the whites and the facial tones.
I've completed the figure and the base and I'm done with it.
Another one for the competitiontables and showcase at home.
Thank you FeR for spending your precious time.
I hope we meet in person one day. Maybe Scale Model Challenge (advertising our own show), or at Euro maybe.
Final round of pictures:
Greetings
Patrick
Fernando Ruiz
A Fixture
Great work, mate!
I also look forward to meet you. If you go to Euromilitaire, I'll be there
Regards
FeR
I also look forward to meet you. If you go to Euromilitaire, I'll be there
Regards
FeR
Patrick Kamsma
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Yup, Robert and I, and 7 other clubmembers, will visit Euro this year.
Our Cossacks will, no doubt, be displayed at our clubstand.
Grtz
Patrick
Our Cossacks will, no doubt, be displayed at our clubstand.
Grtz
Patrick
Fernando Ruiz
A Fixture
We'll meet there for sure, then!
Regards
FeR
Regards
FeR
Look forwards to seeing him, and you at Euro.
Carl.
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