Thanks for the good thoughts guys, had a wee trouble with the box art photos,light reflection and wash out,..etc.etc...Having talked with old diggers river and creek crossing was not fun any thing and every thing came down the water ways at a great rate of knots, most of it dead and rotten, slime was the clean part of the water, Painting the bloke was a knock over, the dirty old water and slime was the real fun....l enjoyed doing..